From jerrywhite518 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 12:37:26 2023
From: jerrywhite518 at gmail.com (Jerry White)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 12:37:26 -0700
Subject: [BaseCamp] Basecamp Mac vs. Windows versions
Message-ID: <CAN_EBzrw_v+kRq=FerwcMQ_eiJqzMmHa8U_VmgX7MZCsMWQwnA@mail.gmail.com>

Life is changing and I'm about to no longer own a Windows computer. I'ver
never liked the Mac version of Basecamp, but then again, I've never used it
very much. Every time I try to use it on a Mac I get frustrated and go back
to Windows. SO...now I'm facing a world of that being my only Basecamp,
unless I go down the "Running Windows on a Mac" path.

What do you Apple-y people do?
Does anyone love Basecamp on Mac like I love Basecamp on Windows?

Jerry

From gnicoud3 at icloud.com  Tue Aug 15 13:14:42 2023
From: gnicoud3 at icloud.com (Trey Nicoud)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 13:14:42 -0700
Subject: [BaseCamp] Basecamp Mac vs. Windows versions
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Hi Jerry,

I've been without access to a Windows computer for 4 and half years now. For many years, I loved using Basecamp on Mac and had few problems. Sadly, as Apple kept updating its operating systems and as Garmin stopped supporting Basecamp, the experience has steadily gotten worse, to the point that I have pretty much given up trying to use Basecamp (or any other Garmin product) on a Mac. It's not just that Basecamp is unreliable on the Mac--I usually cannot get a Mac to "see" a Garmin device so I can transfer waypoints and routes to the Garmin. (From numerous phone calls with Garmin tech support, I suspect that the USB ports on Macs, especially laptop Macs, don't send enough power to the Garmin.) For a while I would take the micro SD card out, put that in a card reader, transfer the files to the card, and then put the card back in the Garmin, but now that doesn't seem to work either. Because of my Mac not "seeing" my GPS, I haven't tried the "running Windows on a Mac" approach.

I hope you have better luck than I've had,
Trey

> On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:37 PM, Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Life is changing and I'm about to no longer own a Windows computer. I'ver
> never liked the Mac version of Basecamp, but then again, I've never used it
> very much. Every time I try to use it on a Mac I get frustrated and go back
> to Windows. SO...now I'm facing a world of that being my only Basecamp,
> unless I go down the "Running Windows on a Mac" path.
> 
> What do you Apple-y people do?
> Does anyone love Basecamp on Mac like I love Basecamp on Windows?
> 
> Jerry
> 
> To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click ----->http://micapeak.com/mailman/listinfo/basecamp
> 


From jerrywhite518 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 16:01:51 2023
From: jerrywhite518 at gmail.com (Jerry White)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 16:01:51 -0700
Subject: [BaseCamp] Basecamp Mac vs. Windows versions
In-Reply-To: <FDBA9D81-9BEE-4F81-8802-707EB5250127@icloud.com>
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 <FDBA9D81-9BEE-4F81-8802-707EB5250127@icloud.com>
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Thanks Trey. I was able to connect my XT to the Macbook and get it to
install the current mapset to the laptop, so that seems encouraging. But
I'm getting a different laptop soon and we'll find out if it will see the
XT. In the meantime I'm trying to get to know non-Basecamp ways to save
waypoints and create routes. So far I'd say Google is obviously not made
for people who like to geek out on their routes. I think Mike Brooke
doesn't use a dedicated GPS and I sure would like to learn his techniques.

What are you doing since you're no longer using Basecamp?

On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 1:15 PM Trey Nicoud <gnicoud3 at icloud.com> wrote:

> Hi Jerry,
>
> I've been without access to a Windows computer for 4 and half years now.
> For many years, I loved using Basecamp on Mac and had few problems. Sadly,
> as Apple kept updating its operating systems and as Garmin stopped
> supporting Basecamp, the experience has steadily gotten worse, to the point
> that I have pretty much given up trying to use Basecamp (or any other
> Garmin product) on a Mac. It's not just that Basecamp is unreliable on the
> Mac--I usually cannot get a Mac to "see" a Garmin device so I can transfer
> waypoints and routes to the Garmin. (From numerous phone calls with Garmin
> tech support, I suspect that the USB ports on Macs, especially laptop Macs,
> don't send enough power to the Garmin.) For a while I would take the micro
> SD card out, put that in a card reader, transfer the files to the card, and
> then put the card back in the Garmin, but now that doesn't seem to work
> either. Because of my Mac not "seeing" my GPS, I haven't tried the "running
> Windows on a Mac" approach.
>
> I hope you have better luck than I've had,
> Trey
>
> > On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:37 PM, Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Life is changing and I'm about to no longer own a Windows computer. I'ver
> > never liked the Mac version of Basecamp, but then again, I've never used
> it
> > very much. Every time I try to use it on a Mac I get frustrated and go
> back
> > to Windows. SO...now I'm facing a world of that being my only Basecamp,
> > unless I go down the "Running Windows on a Mac" path.
> >
> > What do you Apple-y people do?
> > Does anyone love Basecamp on Mac like I love Basecamp on Windows?
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click
> ----->http://micapeak.com/mailman/listinfo/basecamp
> >
>
>
> To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click ----->
> http://micapeak.com/mailman/listinfo/basecamp
>
>

From wahorn at gmail.com  Tue Aug 15 16:13:03 2023
From: wahorn at gmail.com (Ashley Horn)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2023 19:13:03 -0400
Subject: [BaseCamp] Basecamp Mac vs. Windows versions
In-Reply-To: <CAN_EBzpsLKW9vSjZZKJXQLAqeuNub3SJWcWc=W-zuDMFd8dCew@mail.gmail.com>
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I’m not a Mac guy but I stayed at a Holiday inn once. 

Has anyone tried using a powered usb hub between the Mac and Zumo?

Ashley Horn

> On Aug 15, 2023, at 7:03 PM, Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Trey. I was able to connect my XT to the Macbook and get it to
> install the current mapset to the laptop, so that seems encouraging. But
> I'm getting a different laptop soon and we'll find out if it will see the
> XT. In the meantime I'm trying to get to know non-Basecamp ways to save
> waypoints and create routes. So far I'd say Google is obviously not made
> for people who like to geek out on their routes. I think Mike Brooke
> doesn't use a dedicated GPS and I sure would like to learn his techniques.
> 
> What are you doing since you're no longer using Basecamp?
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 1:15 PM Trey Nicoud <gnicoud3 at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jerry,
>> 
>> I've been without access to a Windows computer for 4 and half years now.
>> For many years, I loved using Basecamp on Mac and had few problems. Sadly,
>> as Apple kept updating its operating systems and as Garmin stopped
>> supporting Basecamp, the experience has steadily gotten worse, to the point
>> that I have pretty much given up trying to use Basecamp (or any other
>> Garmin product) on a Mac. It's not just that Basecamp is unreliable on the
>> Mac--I usually cannot get a Mac to "see" a Garmin device so I can transfer
>> waypoints and routes to the Garmin. (From numerous phone calls with Garmin
>> tech support, I suspect that the USB ports on Macs, especially laptop Macs,
>> don't send enough power to the Garmin.) For a while I would take the micro
>> SD card out, put that in a card reader, transfer the files to the card, and
>> then put the card back in the Garmin, but now that doesn't seem to work
>> either. Because of my Mac not "seeing" my GPS, I haven't tried the "running
>> Windows on a Mac" approach.
>> 
>> I hope you have better luck than I've had,
>> Trey
>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:37 PM, Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Life is changing and I'm about to no longer own a Windows computer. I'ver
>>> never liked the Mac version of Basecamp, but then again, I've never used
>> it
>>> very much. Every time I try to use it on a Mac I get frustrated and go
>> back
>>> to Windows. SO...now I'm facing a world of that being my only Basecamp,
>>> unless I go down the "Running Windows on a Mac" path.
>>> 
>>> What do you Apple-y people do?
>>> Does anyone love Basecamp on Mac like I love Basecamp on Windows?
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click
>> ----->http://micapeak.com/mailman/listinfo/basecamp
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click ----->
>> http://micapeak.com/mailman/listinfo/basecamp
>> 
>> 
> 
> To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click ----->http://micapeak.com/mailman/listinfo/basecamp
> 

From gnicoud3 at icloud.com  Wed Aug 16 17:55:45 2023
From: gnicoud3 at icloud.com (Trey Nicoud)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 17:55:45 -0700
Subject: [BaseCamp] Basecamp Mac vs. Windows versions
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 <CAN_EBzpsLKW9vSjZZKJXQLAqeuNub3SJWcWc=W-zuDMFd8dCew@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi again Jerry,

I'm afraid that I don't yet have an approach to recommend. I've tried Google, Rever, and Scenic, but none lets me store a library of waypoints that I can then use in different routes. I've also tried the BMW Connected app, which has yet to make it more than an hour without the map display failing. So I'm mostly back to paper maps and handwritten notes.

Please post a solution if you find one. Good luck!

Trey

P.S. to Ashley:  I have tried powered USB hubs (several), but was unsuccessful in getting the Mac to see the Garmin.    

> On Aug 15, 2023, at 4:01 PM, Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Trey. I was able to connect my XT to the Macbook and get it to
> install the current mapset to the laptop, so that seems encouraging. But
> I'm getting a different laptop soon and we'll find out if it will see the
> XT. In the meantime I'm trying to get to know non-Basecamp ways to save
> waypoints and create routes. So far I'd say Google is obviously not made
> for people who like to geek out on their routes. I think Mike Brooke
> doesn't use a dedicated GPS and I sure would like to learn his techniques.
> 
> What are you doing since you're no longer using Basecamp?
> 
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 1:15 PM Trey Nicoud <gnicoud3 at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jerry,
>> 
>> I've been without access to a Windows computer for 4 and half years now.
>> For many years, I loved using Basecamp on Mac and had few problems. Sadly,
>> as Apple kept updating its operating systems and as Garmin stopped
>> supporting Basecamp, the experience has steadily gotten worse, to the point
>> that I have pretty much given up trying to use Basecamp (or any other
>> Garmin product) on a Mac. It's not just that Basecamp is unreliable on the
>> Mac--I usually cannot get a Mac to "see" a Garmin device so I can transfer
>> waypoints and routes to the Garmin. (From numerous phone calls with Garmin
>> tech support, I suspect that the USB ports on Macs, especially laptop Macs,
>> don't send enough power to the Garmin.) For a while I would take the micro
>> SD card out, put that in a card reader, transfer the files to the card, and
>> then put the card back in the Garmin, but now that doesn't seem to work
>> either. Because of my Mac not "seeing" my GPS, I haven't tried the "running
>> Windows on a Mac" approach.
>> 
>> I hope you have better luck than I've had,
>> Trey
>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:37 PM, Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Life is changing and I'm about to no longer own a Windows computer. I'ver
>>> never liked the Mac version of Basecamp, but then again, I've never used
>> it
>>> very much. Every time I try to use it on a Mac I get frustrated and go
>> back
>>> to Windows. SO...now I'm facing a world of that being my only Basecamp,
>>> unless I go down the "Running Windows on a Mac" path.
>>> 
>>> What do you Apple-y people do?
>>> Does anyone love Basecamp on Mac like I love Basecamp on Windows?
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click
>> ----->http://micapeak.com/mailman/listinfo/basecamp
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click ----->
>> http://micapeak.com/mailman/listinfo/basecamp
>> 
>> 
> 
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> 


From jerrywhite518 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 16 18:22:58 2023
From: jerrywhite518 at gmail.com (Jerry White)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 18:22:58 -0700
Subject: [BaseCamp] Basecamp Mac vs. Windows versions
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I’m working on one. Will let you know.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 5:56 PM Trey Nicoud <gnicoud3 at icloud.com> wrote:

> Hi again Jerry,
>
> I'm afraid that I don't yet have an approach to recommend. I've tried
> Google, Rever, and Scenic, but none lets me store a library of waypoints
> that I can then use in different routes. I've also tried the BMW Connected
> app, which has yet to make it more than an hour without the map display
> failing. So I'm mostly back to paper maps and handwritten notes.
>
> Please post a solution if you find one. Good luck!
>
> Trey
>
> P.S. to Ashley:  I have tried powered USB hubs (several), but was
> unsuccessful in getting the Mac to see the Garmin.
>
> > On Aug 15, 2023, at 4:01 PM, Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Trey. I was able to connect my XT to the Macbook and get it to
> > install the current mapset to the laptop, so that seems encouraging. But
> > I'm getting a different laptop soon and we'll find out if it will see the
> > XT. In the meantime I'm trying to get to know non-Basecamp ways to save
> > waypoints and create routes. So far I'd say Google is obviously not made
> > for people who like to geek out on their routes. I think Mike Brooke
> > doesn't use a dedicated GPS and I sure would like to learn his
> techniques.
> >
> > What are you doing since you're no longer using Basecamp?
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 1:15 PM Trey Nicoud <gnicoud3 at icloud.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Jerry,
> >>
> >> I've been without access to a Windows computer for 4 and half years now.
> >> For many years, I loved using Basecamp on Mac and had few problems.
> Sadly,
> >> as Apple kept updating its operating systems and as Garmin stopped
> >> supporting Basecamp, the experience has steadily gotten worse, to the
> point
> >> that I have pretty much given up trying to use Basecamp (or any other
> >> Garmin product) on a Mac. It's not just that Basecamp is unreliable on
> the
> >> Mac--I usually cannot get a Mac to "see" a Garmin device so I can
> transfer
> >> waypoints and routes to the Garmin. (From numerous phone calls with
> Garmin
> >> tech support, I suspect that the USB ports on Macs, especially laptop
> Macs,
> >> don't send enough power to the Garmin.) For a while I would take the
> micro
> >> SD card out, put that in a card reader, transfer the files to the card,
> and
> >> then put the card back in the Garmin, but now that doesn't seem to work
> >> either. Because of my Mac not "seeing" my GPS, I haven't tried the
> "running
> >> Windows on a Mac" approach.
> >>
> >> I hope you have better luck than I've had,
> >> Trey
> >>
> >>> On Aug 15, 2023, at 12:37 PM, Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Life is changing and I'm about to no longer own a Windows computer.
> I'ver
> >>> never liked the Mac version of Basecamp, but then again, I've never
> used
> >> it
> >>> very much. Every time I try to use it on a Mac I get frustrated and go
> >> back
> >>> to Windows. SO...now I'm facing a world of that being my only Basecamp,
> >>> unless I go down the "Running Windows on a Mac" path.
> >>>
> >>> What do you Apple-y people do?
> >>> Does anyone love Basecamp on Mac like I love Basecamp on Windows?
> >>>
> >>> Jerry
> >>>
> >>> To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click
> >> ----->http://micapeak.com/mailman/listinfo/basecamp
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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> ----->
> >> http://micapeak.com/mailman/listinfo/basecamp
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> >>
> >
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>
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