Looking for an oil pan

[Dennis]

Thanks for all the advice on my oil pan problem.  Two salvage yards had one 
for me - $75 each.  New was $113 so I ordered that one.  Sad thing is it 
takes another $70 worth of gaskets, o-rings and banjo bolt washers to 
complete the job.  Oh well - just waiting for the UPS man now.

Dennis P
Orem Utah USA
95 RED

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From: "Randy noneofyourbusiness" <tuner_delorean at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:18 AM
To: "GPZ List" <gpzlist at micapeak.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for an oil pan

> I think nothing of having major parts welded, had plenty of parts welded 
> over the years, the hardest part is finging a COMPETENT WELDER!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> many dont know what they are doing when welding bike cases, but when they 
> know what they are doing I would trust them.
>
> I worked at a independent Harley shop for 13 years, & had to get many 
> cases welded, even on sealing surfaces, I have seen many cases blown apart 
> & rewelded & not have any problems.
>
> my Harley heads on one of the rebuilds I noticed the spark plug holes were 
> a little worn, so instead of risking a problem down the road I had them 
> rewelded, the welder actually ran a drill bit through the pulg hole, 
> removed al threads, & filled int he entire area with weld bead, then 
> machined it & cut new threads, I had dual plugh heads & I had all 4 spark 
> plug holes done, & had absolutely no problems, motor is torn down right 
> now, for when ever I decide to rebuild it again. but plug holes are 
> perfect. but it cost me around $60 per hole for 4 holes 10 to 12 years 
> ago.
>
> I have seen a few shady welders drill hole out, then weld in a aluminum 
> slug, & then the aluminum slug strips.
>
> as for my opinion if I couldnt find a used pan easily, I would call 
> independent harley shops especially shops that specialize in older 
> Harleys, or a "club" shop as when alot of  1 %ers  are around they usually 
> have rode hard & have ragged out bikes & many will have rebuilt cases, ask 
> who does their welding for major case repairs & how is their quality, & go 
> with them other than a normal machine shop welding service thats not 
> familiar with welding motorcycle cases! I would trust that alot more than 
> a regular machine shop!
>
> Later,
> Randy
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>
> --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Dennis <gpzeer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> From: Dennis <gpzeer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Looking for an oil pan
> To: "GPZ List" <gpzlist at micapeak.com>
> Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 8:46 PM
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>
> John,
>
> Yea it is cracked where the drain plug goes in.  On the flat plug sealing 
> surface there are cracks at 3, 6, and 9 O'clock.  I had my brother who is 
> a machinist look at it, and he says that he would NOT take a  chance with 
> a repair considering the catastrophic consequence if it subsequently 
> failed and all the oil puked out.
>
>
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> From: "John Soliday" <johnsoliday at msn.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:04 PM
> To: "'GPZ List'" <gpzlist at micapeak.com>
> Subject: RE: Looking for an oil pan
>
>> Sorry to hear that, heck some people don't even know there is a front 
>> drain
>> plug!  If it's cracked into the drain plug, imho then you do need an oil
>> pan.  If it's not cracked into the drain plug, believe it or not you 
>> should
>> be able to repair it.  I used to be sponsored by Loctite by in my racing
>> days and can tell you that Loctite Cold Bond will seal an oil pan at 
>> least
>> for an entire race season!  It exposed to pressurized oil so an epoxy fix
>> might last forever.  On the other hand, if you go to the bother of taking
>> the pan off why not take it down to a machine shop and have it welded? 
>> For
>> that matter, even if the crack is in the threaded drain, a machine shop
>> should be able to weld it shut and retap the drain plug.  Just a thought 
>> as
>> you already have the broken part and I suspect you're going to have a
>> difficult time finding just that part as any junk yard is going to want 
>> to
>> sell an entire engine unless it's trashed and who knows what's broken 
>> there.
>>
>> Good Luck, and yes it was only a mere 68 degrees F here in Colorado 
>> today,
>> and I did go riding but it was the KLR not the GPZ,
>>
>> John
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com] 
>> On
>> Behalf Of Dennis
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:27 PM
>> To: GPZ List
>> Subject: Looking for an oil pan
>>
>> Hey Gang,
>>
>> I was in Virginia for the last year and a half, while my GPz 1100 was in
>> Utah.  The bike has been idle during that time, and I am now getting it 
>> back
>> on the road.  So - I am back on the list, and I already need a favor.  My
>> oil pan has been cracked in the vicinity of the front drain plug (thanks 
>> for
>> not asking how) and I think the easiest fix is to replace the oil pan. 
>> If
>> any lister out there has one they could part with, please let me know. 
>> My
>> research shows that the GPz oil pan is the same part number as the ZX-11
>> from 1993-2001.  Any help would be appreciated.  It is nice to be back on
>> the list.  63 degrees F here in Utah today and no bike to ride (ARHGGGG!)
>>
>> Dennis Peterson
>> Orem, Utah USA
>> 95 RED!
>>
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