Engine will not operate off choke.

Wed Oct 3 11:05:00 PDT 2012

This has nothing to do with the GPz.
 I don't know how many of you still run 2 stroke outboard motors.  
Marilyn picked me up a liter of 2 stroke oil from WalMart.  After 
mixing it I found both my Mercury 20 and my Johnson 9.9 ran like shit. 
 I assumed bad gas and mixed up another 5 gallons/25 liters with 
Kendal oil.  The Mercury cleared up and is running great.  I took the 
remainder of the Kendal oil and poured it into the Walmart 
bottle--mistake.  In very small print on the back of the Walmart 
bottle it claims the oil is good for all 2 strokes except outboard 
motors.  I've never seem this before.  Now I have 9 gallons of fuel 
for my weed wacker and chain saws plus a liter of combined oil that 
will only be good to mix another 10 gallons of weedwacker/chainsaw 
fuel.  This should last me for about 6 years.

Jim

On Wednesday 03/10/2012 at 10:58 am, Charles Scappaticci  wrote:
> Randy,
>
> Randy NOYB is on the right track.  Usually when you have to ride with 
> the
> choke on it's a clogged pilot jet circuit/pilot jets, very common with 
> this
> crap they call gas now days.  If you're getting lots of revs 
> associated
> with it, then it may indeed be a vacuum leak somewhere.  Good luck, 
> let us
> know what you find.
>
> Charles S.
>
> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Randolph Peters <arpee44 at yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks Randy,
>> I am also thinking along those lines but the question is if it is 
>> being
>> starved for fuel application of the choke will not make a difference, 
>> no?
>> Or will it?
>> With the choke fully engaged I've even ridden it for some distance 
>> with no
>> problems except the huge amount of revs.
>>
>>
>> From: Randy noneofyourbusiness <tuner_delorean at yahoo.com>
>> To: Randy Peters <ARPEE44 at yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: Engine will not operate off choke.
>>
>> so far every time I have encountered this problem on various cars,
>> motorcycles, it was starved for fuel, some restriction somewhere, even 
>> had
>> a "new" fuel filter not flowing good on an older Harley, have seen 
>> rubber
>> hoses deterioate from inside & flake off & partially block fuel, have 
>> seen
>> dirt & trash clog screen in tank, have had petcocks where rubber seal
>> flaked with age & use & was causing problem, that was on old Harley. 
>> have
>> had excessive rust keep clogging fuel filter on an old truck. it could 
>> also
>> be trash has blocked jet inside carb(s) .
>>
>> based on what I have seen in my past, I would chase fuel flow problems
>> first.
>>
>> Later,
>> Randy
>>
>> --- On Tue, 10/2/12, Randolph Peters <arpee44 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Randolph Peters <arpee44 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: Engine will not operate off choke.
>> To: "Randy" <tuner_delorean at yahoo.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2012, 11:21 PM
>>
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>> Sorry to change the subject but I have a problem and would be grateful 
>> for
>> any help from y'all.
>> On Sunday I started the ZZR 1200 with full choke as usual but when I
>> released the choke the engine will not respond to the opening of the
>> throttle but coughs and dies.
>> If I re-apply full choke it responds to the throttle being opened 
>> wide, no
>> hiccups, full power just extreme revs. even blips of the throttle get 
>> the
>> required response. Just as long as the choke is fully applied.
>> Any ideas?
>> The bike had stood in the rain during heavy downpours we had in West 
>> Texas
>> all through the weekend.
>> So I disconnected and used spray cleaner on all the connections I 
>> could
>> find, including those hooked up to he fuse box and the igniter, the 
>> fuel
>> pumps (the ZZR has two), the coils.
>> I cannot decide if this problem is electrical or fuel delivery.
>> Being able to rev with full power with full choke seems to me to 
>> discount
>> fuel filter or fuel pumps/delivery issues.
>> What do the wise ones opine?
>> Thanks.
>> Randy from New Orleans.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: John Soliday <johnsoliday at msn.com>
>> To: Randy Peters <ARPEE44 at yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:46 AM
>> Subject: GE Light Bulbs
>>
>> Gents,
>>
>>
>>
>> Ignore my previous post about the headlights, the discount is no 
>> longer in
>> force and the selector guide is totally screwed up.  Sorry, but I just
>> determined that the bulbs I bought for my truck were wrong (thanks to 
>> the
>> defective selector guide) and the H4's are not dropping to $20 at 
>> checkout.
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
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