From wkdenton at verizon.net  Mon Apr 23 10:28:53 2018
From: wkdenton at verizon.net (William K Denton)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 13:28:53 -0400
Subject: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
Message-ID: <064e01d3db28$8d49b8b0$a7dd2a10$@verizon.net>

I’ve always been a bit flummoxed by the (low) temperature gauge readings on
my ’96  GPz1100. Whenever I’m riding at highway speeds and the ambient
temperature is less than ~90ºF (~32ºC), my temp gauge indicates that the
coolant temperature is oscillating between the “cold” and just above the
cold range as the thermostat opens and then closes repeatedly. Contrast that
gauge reading with every other liquid cooled vehicle that I’ve ever owned,
both two and four wheeled varieties, where full operating temperature is
usually indicated by a “centered” needle position similar to the three
bears’ porridge, i.e. not too cold not too hot.

 

In my mind, these comparative observation beg the following questions:

 

1)      What was Kawasaki’s normal operating design temperature for the
ZX1100-E1 and E2?

2)      What is the actual operating temperature when the temperature gauge
reads just above “cold” range as mine does when riding in cool weather
conditions?

3)      How do #1 and #2 above correlate, and

4)      Is the temp gauge reading caused by an improper manufacturing
specification for the selected gauge, or is it actually an operating
temperature problem, perhaps caused by improper mfg. specification for the
thermostat?

 

Perspiring minds want to know
. ;<D

 

Bill in Yardley, PA
 <mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net> wkdenton at verizon.net
yam650 Listowner
'96 ZX1100-E2  "Stealth Rocket"

 


From af at genevainformation.ch  Mon Apr 23 11:24:33 2018
From: af at genevainformation.ch (Alexander Finger)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 20:24:33 +0200
Subject: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
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It seems indeed, that the GPZ is an incredibly cool bike ;)
(I'm observing the same, though here the temperatures rarely go above 10°C
;-) *)

Kind regards
Alex

*) just kidding, 15°C this morning when I left the house


On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:28 PM, William K Denton <wkdenton at verizon.net>
wrote:

> I’ve always been a bit flummoxed by the (low) temperature gauge readings on
> my ’96  GPz1100. Whenever I’m riding at highway speeds and the ambient
> temperature is less than ~90ºF (~32ºC), my temp gauge indicates that the
> coolant temperature is oscillating between the “cold” and just above the
> cold range as the thermostat opens and then closes repeatedly. Contrast
> that
> gauge reading with every other liquid cooled vehicle that I’ve ever owned,
> both two and four wheeled varieties, where full operating temperature is
> usually indicated by a “centered” needle position similar to the three
> bears’ porridge, i.e. not too cold not too hot.
>
>
>
> In my mind, these comparative observation beg the following questions:
>
>
>
> 1)      What was Kawasaki’s normal operating design temperature for the
> ZX1100-E1 and E2?
>
> 2)      What is the actual operating temperature when the temperature gauge
> reads just above “cold” range as mine does when riding in cool weather
> conditions?
>
> 3)      How do #1 and #2 above correlate, and
>
> 4)      Is the temp gauge reading caused by an improper manufacturing
> specification for the selected gauge, or is it actually an operating
> temperature problem, perhaps caused by improper mfg. specification for the
> thermostat?
>
>
>
> Perspiring minds want to know…. ;<D
>
>
>
> Bill in Yardley, PA
>  <mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net> wkdenton at verizon.net
> yam650 Listowner
> '96 ZX1100-E2  "Stealth Rocket"
>
>
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From pmheimjr at gmail.com  Mon Apr 23 18:49:49 2018
From: pmheimjr at gmail.com (Paul Heim)
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 20:49:49 -0500
Subject: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
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Mine has always read low. I asked the question about 13 years ago and Ralph replied that his (and everyone else’s) behaves the same way. I’ve never been motivated enough to determine the actual temperature...

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 23, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Alexander Finger <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
> 
> It seems indeed, that the GPZ is an incredibly cool bike ;)
> (I'm observing the same, though here the temperatures rarely go above 10°C
> ;-) *)
> 
> Kind regards
> Alex
> 
> *) just kidding, 15°C this morning when I left the house
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:28 PM, William K Denton <wkdenton at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> I’ve always been a bit flummoxed by the (low) temperature gauge readings on
>> my ’96  GPz1100. Whenever I’m riding at highway speeds and the ambient
>> temperature is less than ~90ºF (~32ºC), my temp gauge indicates that the
>> coolant temperature is oscillating between the “cold” and just above the
>> cold range as the thermostat opens and then closes repeatedly. Contrast
>> that
>> gauge reading with every other liquid cooled vehicle that I’ve ever owned,
>> both two and four wheeled varieties, where full operating temperature is
>> usually indicated by a “centered” needle position similar to the three
>> bears’ porridge, i.e. not too cold not too hot.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In my mind, these comparative observation beg the following questions:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 1)      What was Kawasaki’s normal operating design temperature for the
>> ZX1100-E1 and E2?
>> 
>> 2)      What is the actual operating temperature when the temperature gauge
>> reads just above “cold” range as mine does when riding in cool weather
>> conditions?
>> 
>> 3)      How do #1 and #2 above correlate, and
>> 
>> 4)      Is the temp gauge reading caused by an improper manufacturing
>> specification for the selected gauge, or is it actually an operating
>> temperature problem, perhaps caused by improper mfg. specification for the
>> thermostat?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Perspiring minds want to know…. ;<D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bill in Yardley, PA
>> <mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net> wkdenton at verizon.net
>> yam650 Listowner
>> '96 ZX1100-E2  "Stealth Rocket"
>> 
>> 
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From gpz1100abs at gmail.com  Tue Apr 24 05:07:07 2018
From: gpz1100abs at gmail.com (Jens Pedersen)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:07:07 +0200
Subject: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
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I too don't have the technical explanation as to why it behaves that way.
I'm pretty sure it's not an operating temperature problem but rather bad
scaling in either the temperature sensor or the instrument. The thermostat
begins to open at 80-84 dec. C and if 95 deg. C is exceeded, the fan kicks
in. So I guess that this range (80-95 deg. C) is the standard operating
temperature. On the instrument, from cold to some 85 deg C the needle moves
a couple om millimeters in the 'cold' range, but from 85 to 95 it moves
half the scale. Not very good. Knowing this, however' I guess it's a
peculiarity you can live with.

Ped
'96 "Black Stealth" GPZ (now 197.000 km :) )
Denmark

2018-04-23 19:28 GMT+02:00 William K Denton <wkdenton at verizon.net>:

> I’ve always been a bit flummoxed by the (low) temperature gauge readings on
> my ’96  GPz1100. Whenever I’m riding at highway speeds and the ambient
> temperature is less than ~90ºF (~32ºC), my temp gauge indicates that the
> coolant temperature is oscillating between the “cold” and just above the
> cold range as the thermostat opens and then closes repeatedly. Contrast
> that
> gauge reading with every other liquid cooled vehicle that I’ve ever owned,
> both two and four wheeled varieties, where full operating temperature is
> usually indicated by a “centered” needle position similar to the three
> bears’ porridge, i.e. not too cold not too hot.
>
>
>
> In my mind, these comparative observation beg the following questions:
>
>
>
> 1)      What was Kawasaki’s normal operating design temperature for the
> ZX1100-E1 and E2?
>
> 2)      What is the actual operating temperature when the temperature gauge
> reads just above “cold” range as mine does when riding in cool weather
> conditions?
>
> 3)      How do #1 and #2 above correlate, and
>
> 4)      Is the temp gauge reading caused by an improper manufacturing
> specification for the selected gauge, or is it actually an operating
> temperature problem, perhaps caused by improper mfg. specification for the
> thermostat?
>
>
>
> Perspiring minds want to know…. ;<D
>
>
>
> Bill in Yardley, PA
>  <mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net> wkdenton at verizon.net
> yam650 Listowner
> '96 ZX1100-E2  "Stealth Rocket"
>
>
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From masonjs at nrtco.net  Tue Apr 24 07:12:51 2018
From: masonjs at nrtco.net (masonjs at nrtco.net)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 10:12:51 -0400
Subject: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
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In the 10 years I owned mine I only saw the heat gauge in the high of 
center range once.  This was in stop & crawl traffic in Poplar Bluff 
Missouri on my way to Hot Springs Arkansas.  According to the 
date/time/temperature display at the Bank of America it was 104 F (40 
C).  But the temperature dropped below center within 3 km once I got 
on the highway.
A few bikes were out yesterday but there's too much winter sand on the 
roads to suit me.



On Monday 23/04/2018 at 9:50 pm, Paul Heim  wrote:
> Mine has always read low. I asked the question about 13 years ago and 
> Ralph replied that his (and everyone else’s) behaves the same way. 
> I’ve never been motivated enough to determine the actual 
> temperature...
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Alexander Finger 
>> <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
>>
>> It seems indeed, that the GPZ is an incredibly cool bike ;)
>> (I'm observing the same, though here the temperatures rarely go above 
>> 10°C
>> ;-) *)
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Alex
>>
>> *) just kidding, 15°C this morning when I left the house
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:28 PM, William K Denton 
>> <wkdenton at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I’ve always been a bit flummoxed by the (low) temperature gauge 
>>> readings on
>>> my ’96  GPz1100. Whenever I’m riding at highway speeds and the 
>>> ambient
>>> temperature is less than ~90ºF (~32ºC), my temp gauge indicates that 
>>> the
>>> coolant temperature is oscillating between the “cold” and just 
>>> above the
>>> cold range as the thermostat opens and then closes repeatedly. 
>>> Contrast
>>> that
>>> gauge reading with every other liquid cooled vehicle that I’ve ever 
>>> owned,
>>> both two and four wheeled varieties, where full operating temperature 
>>> is
>>> usually indicated by a “centered” needle position similar to the 
>>> three
>>> bears’ porridge, i.e. not too cold not too hot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my mind, these comparative observation beg the following questions:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1)      What was Kawasaki’s normal operating design temperature for 
>>> the
>>> ZX1100-E1 and E2?
>>>
>>> 2)      What is the actual operating temperature when the temperature 
>>> gauge
>>> reads just above “cold” range as mine does when riding in cool 
>>> weather
>>> conditions?
>>>
>>> 3)      How do #1 and #2 above correlate, and
>>>
>>> 4)      Is the temp gauge reading caused by an improper manufacturing
>>> specification for the selected gauge, or is it actually an operating
>>> temperature problem, perhaps caused by improper mfg. specification for 
>>> the
>>> thermostat?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perspiring minds want to know…. ;<D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill in Yardley, PA
>>> <mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net> wkdenton at verizon.net
>>> yam650 Listowner
>>> '96 ZX1100-E2  "Stealth Rocket"
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From art.robinson at rogers.com  Tue Apr 24 11:53:34 2018
From: art.robinson at rogers.com (Arthur Robinson)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:53:34 -0400
Subject: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
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Soon after I bought my '95 I mentioned the low temperature reading and was told, "Relax, that's just the way they are".

Given the many kms., extreme reliability and minimal oil consumption, I'd have to say that the low temp reading it must be working well for it and maybe that should be enough... Still my Volvo's temp gauge reads exactly on the middle point of normal and I've never seen it move more that the width of the needle either side of the mark regardless of the temperature, low or high and somehow I find that comforting... Go figure!

Art in TO (waiting for the rain tonight and tomorrow to wash away the road salt, AGAIN!)   

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature

In the 10 years I owned mine I only saw the heat gauge in the high of 
center range once.  This was in stop & crawl traffic in Poplar Bluff 
Missouri on my way to Hot Springs Arkansas.  According to the 
date/time/temperature display at the Bank of America it was 104 F (40 
C).  But the temperature dropped below center within 3 km once I got 
on the highway.
A few bikes were out yesterday but there's too much winter sand on the 
roads to suit me.



On Monday 23/04/2018 at 9:50 pm, Paul Heim  wrote:
> Mine has always read low. I asked the question about 13 years ago and 
> Ralph replied that his (and everyone else’s) behaves the same way. 
> I’ve never been motivated enough to determine the actual 
> temperature...
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Alexander Finger 
>> <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
>>
>> It seems indeed, that the GPZ is an incredibly cool bike ;)
>> (I'm observing the same, though here the temperatures rarely go above 
>> 10°C
>> ;-) *)
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Alex
>>
>> *) just kidding, 15°C this morning when I left the house
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:28 PM, William K Denton 
>> <wkdenton at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I’ve always been a bit flummoxed by the (low) temperature gauge 
>>> readings on
>>> my ’96  GPz1100. Whenever I’m riding at highway speeds and the 
>>> ambient
>>> temperature is less than ~90ºF (~32ºC), my temp gauge indicates that 
>>> the
>>> coolant temperature is oscillating between the “cold” and just 
>>> above the
>>> cold range as the thermostat opens and then closes repeatedly. 
>>> Contrast
>>> that
>>> gauge reading with every other liquid cooled vehicle that I’ve ever 
>>> owned,
>>> both two and four wheeled varieties, where full operating temperature 
>>> is
>>> usually indicated by a “centered” needle position similar to the 
>>> three
>>> bears’ porridge, i.e. not too cold not too hot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my mind, these comparative observation beg the following questions:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1)      What was Kawasaki’s normal operating design temperature for 
>>> the
>>> ZX1100-E1 and E2?
>>>
>>> 2)      What is the actual operating temperature when the temperature 
>>> gauge
>>> reads just above “cold” range as mine does when riding in cool 
>>> weather
>>> conditions?
>>>
>>> 3)      How do #1 and #2 above correlate, and
>>>
>>> 4)      Is the temp gauge reading caused by an improper manufacturing
>>> specification for the selected gauge, or is it actually an operating
>>> temperature problem, perhaps caused by improper mfg. specification for 
>>> the
>>> thermostat?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perspiring minds want to know…. ;<D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill in Yardley, PA
>>> <mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net> wkdenton at verizon.net
>>> yam650 Listowner
>>> '96 ZX1100-E2  "Stealth Rocket"
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From the74impala at hotmail.com  Tue Apr 24 13:19:32 2018
From: the74impala at hotmail.com (Tom Wheeler)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:19:32 +0000
Subject: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
Message-ID: <CY1PR12MB0633A18356896F5D195D968AAD880@CY1PR12MB0633.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

In many cars, the the needle is made to be in the middle for a fairly wide temp range,  same applies to oil pressure.  If it is within an acceptable range, it is in the middle.  Not sure of that applies to the Geeper

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Arthur Robinson <art.robinson at rogers.com>
Date: 4/24/18 1:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: the74impala at hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature

Soon after I bought my '95 I mentioned the low temperature reading and was told, "Relax, that's just the way they are".

Given the many kms., extreme reliability and minimal oil consumption, I'd have to say that the low temp reading it must be working well for it and maybe that should be enough... Still my Volvo's temp gauge reads exactly on the middle point of normal and I've never seen it move more that the width of the needle either side of the mark regardless of the temperature, low or high and somehow I find that comforting... Go figure!

Art in TO (waiting for the rain tonight and tomorrow to wash away the road salt, AGAIN!)

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Subject: Re: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature

In the 10 years I owned mine I only saw the heat gauge in the high of
center range once.  This was in stop & crawl traffic in Poplar Bluff
Missouri on my way to Hot Springs Arkansas.  According to the
date/time/temperature display at the Bank of America it was 104 F (40
C).  But the temperature dropped below center within 3 km once I got
on the highway.
A few bikes were out yesterday but there's too much winter sand on the
roads to suit me.



On Monday 23/04/2018 at 9:50 pm, Paul Heim  wrote:
> Mine has always read low. I asked the question about 13 years ago and
> Ralph replied that his (and everyone else’s) behaves the same way.
> I’ve never been motivated enough to determine the actual
> temperature...
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Alexander Finger
>> <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
>>
>> It seems indeed, that the GPZ is an incredibly cool bike ;)
>> (I'm observing the same, though here the temperatures rarely go above
>> 10°C
>> ;-) *)
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Alex
>>
>> *) just kidding, 15°C this morning when I left the house
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:28 PM, William K Denton
>> <wkdenton at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I’ve always been a bit flummoxed by the (low) temperature gauge
>>> readings on
>>> my ’96  GPz1100. Whenever I’m riding at highway speeds and the
>>> ambient
>>> temperature is less than ~90ºF (~32ºC), my temp gauge indicates that
>>> the
>>> coolant temperature is oscillating between the “cold” and just
>>> above the
>>> cold range as the thermostat opens and then closes repeatedly.
>>> Contrast
>>> that
>>> gauge reading with every other liquid cooled vehicle that I’ve ever
>>> owned,
>>> both two and four wheeled varieties, where full operating temperature
>>> is
>>> usually indicated by a “centered” needle position similar to the
>>> three
>>> bears’ porridge, i.e. not too cold not too hot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my mind, these comparative observation beg the following questions:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1)      What was Kawasaki’s normal operating design temperature for
>>> the
>>> ZX1100-E1 and E2?
>>>
>>> 2)      What is the actual operating temperature when the temperature
>>> gauge
>>> reads just above “cold” range as mine does when riding in cool
>>> weather
>>> conditions?
>>>
>>> 3)      How do #1 and #2 above correlate, and
>>>
>>> 4)      Is the temp gauge reading caused by an improper manufacturing
>>> specification for the selected gauge, or is it actually an operating
>>> temperature problem, perhaps caused by improper mfg. specification for
>>> the
>>> thermostat?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perspiring minds want to know…. ;<D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill in Yardley, PA
>>> <mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net> wkdenton at verizon.net
>>> yam650 Listowner
>>> '96 ZX1100-E2  "Stealth Rocket"
>>>
>>>
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From Sirdondiego at outlook.com  Tue Apr 24 23:22:17 2018
From: Sirdondiego at outlook.com (Don French)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 06:22:17 +0000
Subject: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
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The oil site Glass and the temp Gage are the few things not perfect?





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From: GPZList <gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> on behalf of Arthur Robinson <art.robinson at rogers.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:53:34 PM
To: Don French
Subject: RE: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature

Soon after I bought my '95 I mentioned the low temperature reading and was told, "Relax, that's just the way they are".

Given the many kms., extreme reliability and minimal oil consumption, I'd have to say that the low temp reading it must be working well for it and maybe that should be enough... Still my Volvo's temp gauge reads exactly on the middle point of normal and I've never seen it move more that the width of the needle either side of the mark regardless of the temperature, low or high and somehow I find that comforting... Go figure!

Art in TO (waiting for the rain tonight and tomorrow to wash away the road salt, AGAIN!)

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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:13 AM
To: art.robinson at rogers.com
Subject: Re: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature

In the 10 years I owned mine I only saw the heat gauge in the high of
center range once.  This was in stop & crawl traffic in Poplar Bluff
Missouri on my way to Hot Springs Arkansas.  According to the
date/time/temperature display at the Bank of America it was 104 F (40
C).  But the temperature dropped below center within 3 km once I got
on the highway.
A few bikes were out yesterday but there's too much winter sand on the
roads to suit me.



On Monday 23/04/2018 at 9:50 pm, Paul Heim  wrote:
> Mine has always read low. I asked the question about 13 years ago and
> Ralph replied that his (and everyone else’s) behaves the same way.
> I’ve never been motivated enough to determine the actual
> temperature...
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Alexander Finger
>> <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
>>
>> It seems indeed, that the GPZ is an incredibly cool bike ;)
>> (I'm observing the same, though here the temperatures rarely go above
>> 10°C
>> ;-) *)
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Alex
>>
>> *) just kidding, 15°C this morning when I left the house
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:28 PM, William K Denton
>> <wkdenton at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I’ve always been a bit flummoxed by the (low) temperature gauge
>>> readings on
>>> my ’96  GPz1100. Whenever I’m riding at highway speeds and the
>>> ambient
>>> temperature is less than ~90ºF (~32ºC), my temp gauge indicates that
>>> the
>>> coolant temperature is oscillating between the “cold” and just
>>> above the
>>> cold range as the thermostat opens and then closes repeatedly.
>>> Contrast
>>> that
>>> gauge reading with every other liquid cooled vehicle that I’ve ever
>>> owned,
>>> both two and four wheeled varieties, where full operating temperature
>>> is
>>> usually indicated by a “centered” needle position similar to the
>>> three
>>> bears’ porridge, i.e. not too cold not too hot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In my mind, these comparative observation beg the following questions:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1)      What was Kawasaki’s normal operating design temperature for
>>> the
>>> ZX1100-E1 and E2?
>>>
>>> 2)      What is the actual operating temperature when the temperature
>>> gauge
>>> reads just above “cold” range as mine does when riding in cool
>>> weather
>>> conditions?
>>>
>>> 3)      How do #1 and #2 above correlate, and
>>>
>>> 4)      Is the temp gauge reading caused by an improper manufacturing
>>> specification for the selected gauge, or is it actually an operating
>>> temperature problem, perhaps caused by improper mfg. specification for
>>> the
>>> thermostat?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perspiring minds want to know…. ;<D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill in Yardley, PA
>>> <mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net> wkdenton at verizon.net
>>> yam650 Listowner
>>> '96 ZX1100-E2  "Stealth Rocket"
>>>
>>>
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From af at genevainformation.ch  Tue Apr 24 23:25:04 2018
From: af at genevainformation.ch (Alexander Finger)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:25:04 +0200
Subject: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
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The oil thingy-glass is perfect. It just requires perfection on the
reader's side, too!

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:22 AM, Don French <Sirdondiego at outlook.com> wrote:

> The oil site Glass and the temp Gage are the few things not perfect?
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: GPZList <gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> on behalf of Arthur
> Robinson <art.robinson at rogers.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:53:34 PM
> To: Don French
> Subject: RE: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
>
> Soon after I bought my '95 I mentioned the low temperature reading and was
> told, "Relax, that's just the way they are".
>
> Given the many kms., extreme reliability and minimal oil consumption, I'd
> have to say that the low temp reading it must be working well for it and
> maybe that should be enough... Still my Volvo's temp gauge reads exactly on
> the middle point of normal and I've never seen it move more that the width
> of the needle either side of the mark regardless of the temperature, low or
> high and somehow I find that comforting... Go figure!
>
> Art in TO (waiting for the rain tonight and tomorrow to wash away the road
> salt, AGAIN!)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GPZList [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] On Behalf Of
> masonjs at nrtco.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:13 AM
> To: art.robinson at rogers.com
> Subject: Re: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
>
> In the 10 years I owned mine I only saw the heat gauge in the high of
> center range once.  This was in stop & crawl traffic in Poplar Bluff
> Missouri on my way to Hot Springs Arkansas.  According to the
> date/time/temperature display at the Bank of America it was 104 F (40
> C).  But the temperature dropped below center within 3 km once I got
> on the highway.
> A few bikes were out yesterday but there's too much winter sand on the
> roads to suit me.
>
>
>
> On Monday 23/04/2018 at 9:50 pm, Paul Heim  wrote:
> > Mine has always read low. I asked the question about 13 years ago and
> > Ralph replied that his (and everyone else’s) behaves the same way.
> > I’ve never been motivated enough to determine the actual
> > temperature...
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >>
> >> On Apr 23, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Alexander Finger
> >> <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
> >>
> >> It seems indeed, that the GPZ is an incredibly cool bike ;)
> >> (I'm observing the same, though here the temperatures rarely go above
> >> 10°C
> >> ;-) *)
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> Alex
> >>
> >> *) just kidding, 15°C this morning when I left the house
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:28 PM, William K Denton
> >> <wkdenton at verizon.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I’ve always been a bit flummoxed by the (low) temperature gauge
> >>> readings on
> >>> my ’96  GPz1100. Whenever I’m riding at highway speeds and the
> >>> ambient
> >>> temperature is less than ~90ºF (~32ºC), my temp gauge indicates that
> >>> the
> >>> coolant temperature is oscillating between the “cold” and just
> >>> above the
> >>> cold range as the thermostat opens and then closes repeatedly.
> >>> Contrast
> >>> that
> >>> gauge reading with every other liquid cooled vehicle that I’ve ever
> >>> owned,
> >>> both two and four wheeled varieties, where full operating temperature
> >>> is
> >>> usually indicated by a “centered” needle position similar to the
> >>> three
> >>> bears’ porridge, i.e. not too cold not too hot.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In my mind, these comparative observation beg the following questions:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 1)      What was Kawasaki’s normal operating design temperature for
> >>> the
> >>> ZX1100-E1 and E2?
> >>>
> >>> 2)      What is the actual operating temperature when the temperature
> >>> gauge
> >>> reads just above “cold” range as mine does when riding in cool
> >>> weather
> >>> conditions?
> >>>
> >>> 3)      How do #1 and #2 above correlate, and
> >>>
> >>> 4)      Is the temp gauge reading caused by an improper manufacturing
> >>> specification for the selected gauge, or is it actually an operating
> >>> temperature problem, perhaps caused by improper mfg. specification for
> >>> the
> >>> thermostat?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Perspiring minds want to know…. ;<D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bill in Yardley, PA
> >>> <mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net> wkdenton at verizon.net
> >>> yam650 Listowner
> >>> '96 ZX1100-E2  "Stealth Rocket"
> >>>
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From Sirdondiego at outlook.com  Tue Apr 24 23:56:31 2018
From: Sirdondiego at outlook.com (Don French)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 06:56:31 +0000
Subject: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
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Nar. I had to wait 2 days before the reading was accurate, as did many others.





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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 1:25:04 AM
To: Don French
Subject: Re: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature

The oil thingy-glass is perfect. It just requires perfection on the
reader's side, too!

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:22 AM, Don French <Sirdondiego at outlook.com> wrote:

> The oil site Glass and the temp Gage are the few things not perfect?
>
>
>
>
>
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> Robinson <art.robinson at rogers.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:53:34 PM
> To: Don French
> Subject: RE: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
>
> Soon after I bought my '95 I mentioned the low temperature reading and was
> told, "Relax, that's just the way they are".
>
> Given the many kms., extreme reliability and minimal oil consumption, I'd
> have to say that the low temp reading it must be working well for it and
> maybe that should be enough... Still my Volvo's temp gauge reads exactly on
> the middle point of normal and I've never seen it move more that the width
> of the needle either side of the mark regardless of the temperature, low or
> high and somehow I find that comforting... Go figure!
>
> Art in TO (waiting for the rain tonight and tomorrow to wash away the road
> salt, AGAIN!)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GPZList [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] On Behalf Of
> masonjs at nrtco.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:13 AM
> To: art.robinson at rogers.com
> Subject: Re: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
>
> In the 10 years I owned mine I only saw the heat gauge in the high of
> center range once.  This was in stop & crawl traffic in Poplar Bluff
> Missouri on my way to Hot Springs Arkansas.  According to the
> date/time/temperature display at the Bank of America it was 104 F (40
> C).  But the temperature dropped below center within 3 km once I got
> on the highway.
> A few bikes were out yesterday but there's too much winter sand on the
> roads to suit me.
>
>
>
> On Monday 23/04/2018 at 9:50 pm, Paul Heim  wrote:
> > Mine has always read low. I asked the question about 13 years ago and
> > Ralph replied that his (and everyone else’s) behaves the same way.
> > I’ve never been motivated enough to determine the actual
> > temperature...
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >>
> >> On Apr 23, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Alexander Finger
> >> <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
> >>
> >> It seems indeed, that the GPZ is an incredibly cool bike ;)
> >> (I'm observing the same, though here the temperatures rarely go above
> >> 10°C
> >> ;-) *)
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> Alex
> >>
> >> *) just kidding, 15°C this morning when I left the house
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:28 PM, William K Denton
> >> <wkdenton at verizon.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I’ve always been a bit flummoxed by the (low) temperature gauge
> >>> readings on
> >>> my ’96  GPz1100. Whenever I’m riding at highway speeds and the
> >>> ambient
> >>> temperature is less than ~90ºF (~32ºC), my temp gauge indicates that
> >>> the
> >>> coolant temperature is oscillating between the “cold” and just
> >>> above the
> >>> cold range as the thermostat opens and then closes repeatedly.
> >>> Contrast
> >>> that
> >>> gauge reading with every other liquid cooled vehicle that I’ve ever
> >>> owned,
> >>> both two and four wheeled varieties, where full operating temperature
> >>> is
> >>> usually indicated by a “centered” needle position similar to the
> >>> three
> >>> bears’ porridge, i.e. not too cold not too hot.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In my mind, these comparative observation beg the following questions:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 1)      What was Kawasaki’s normal operating design temperature for
> >>> the
> >>> ZX1100-E1 and E2?
> >>>
> >>> 2)      What is the actual operating temperature when the temperature
> >>> gauge
> >>> reads just above “cold” range as mine does when riding in cool
> >>> weather
> >>> conditions?
> >>>
> >>> 3)      How do #1 and #2 above correlate, and
> >>>
> >>> 4)      Is the temp gauge reading caused by an improper manufacturing
> >>> specification for the selected gauge, or is it actually an operating
> >>> temperature problem, perhaps caused by improper mfg. specification for
> >>> the
> >>> thermostat?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Perspiring minds want to know…. ;<D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bill in Yardley, PA
> >>> <mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net> wkdenton at verizon.net
> >>> yam650 Listowner
> >>> '96 ZX1100-E2  "Stealth Rocket"
> >>>
> >>>
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From arthjohnson270 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 25 07:40:48 2018
From: arthjohnson270 at gmail.com (Art Johnson)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:40:48 -0600
Subject: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
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Things to like about GPz;
No dipsticks
Cool running
Reliable
Fast and good fuel consumption
Easy maintenance (thank you shim kit)

Got full stroke on temp gauge (and pulse!) after changing antifreeze. Didn’t vent return side to thermostat, so likely boiled off a bit to get thermostat to open, then all good.

Sight glass oil level changes from cold start to running temp. Give it time to settle like at a gas stop/coffee break. I’ve added too much once. Had to drain crankcase after fuel dilution. Always run an in-line fuel filter.
On the 1700 Voyager, oil has to be hot, bike level, to get correct reading on dipstick, after about 5 minutes shutoff. Follow owner manual instructions.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2018, at 12:56 AM, Don French <Sirdondiego at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> Nar. I had to wait 2 days before the reading was accurate, as did many others.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 1:25:04 AM
> To: Don French
> Subject: Re: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
> 
> The oil thingy-glass is perfect. It just requires perfection on the
> reader's side, too!
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:22 AM, Don French <Sirdondiego at outlook.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The oil site Glass and the temp Gage are the few things not perfect?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
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>> ________________________________
>> From: GPZList <gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> on behalf of Arthur
>> Robinson <art.robinson at rogers.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:53:34 PM
>> To: Don French
>> Subject: RE: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
>> 
>> Soon after I bought my '95 I mentioned the low temperature reading and was
>> told, "Relax, that's just the way they are".
>> 
>> Given the many kms., extreme reliability and minimal oil consumption, I'd
>> have to say that the low temp reading it must be working well for it and
>> maybe that should be enough... Still my Volvo's temp gauge reads exactly on
>> the middle point of normal and I've never seen it move more that the width
>> of the needle either side of the mark regardless of the temperature, low or
>> high and somehow I find that comforting... Go figure!
>> 
>> Art in TO (waiting for the rain tonight and tomorrow to wash away the road
>> salt, AGAIN!)
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: GPZList [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] On Behalf Of
>> masonjs at nrtco.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:13 AM
>> To: art.robinson at rogers.com
>> Subject: Re: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
>> 
>> In the 10 years I owned mine I only saw the heat gauge in the high of
>> center range once.  This was in stop & crawl traffic in Poplar Bluff
>> Missouri on my way to Hot Springs Arkansas.  According to the
>> date/time/temperature display at the Bank of America it was 104 F (40
>> C).  But the temperature dropped below center within 3 km once I got
>> on the highway.
>> A few bikes were out yesterday but there's too much winter sand on the
>> roads to suit me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Monday 23/04/2018 at 9:50 pm, Paul Heim  wrote:
>>> Mine has always read low. I asked the question about 13 years ago and
>>> Ralph replied that his (and everyone else’s) behaves the same way.
>>> I’ve never been motivated enough to determine the actual
>>> temperature...
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 23, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Alexander Finger
>>>> <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It seems indeed, that the GPZ is an incredibly cool bike ;)
>>>> (I'm observing the same, though here the temperatures rarely go above
>>>> 10°C
>>>> ;-) *)
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Alex
>>>> 
>>>> *) just kidding, 15°C this morning when I left the house
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:28 PM, William K Denton
>>>> <wkdenton at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve always been a bit flummoxed by the (low) temperature gauge
>>>>> readings on
>>>>> my ’96  GPz1100. Whenever I’m riding at highway speeds and the
>>>>> ambient
>>>>> temperature is less than ~90ºF (~32ºC), my temp gauge indicates that
>>>>> the
>>>>> coolant temperature is oscillating between the “cold” and just
>>>>> above the
>>>>> cold range as the thermostat opens and then closes repeatedly.
>>>>> Contrast
>>>>> that
>>>>> gauge reading with every other liquid cooled vehicle that I’ve ever
>>>>> owned,
>>>>> both two and four wheeled varieties, where full operating temperature
>>>>> is
>>>>> usually indicated by a “centered” needle position similar to the
>>>>> three
>>>>> bears’ porridge, i.e. not too cold not too hot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my mind, these comparative observation beg the following questions:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1)      What was Kawasaki’s normal operating design temperature for
>>>>> the
>>>>> ZX1100-E1 and E2?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2)      What is the actual operating temperature when the temperature
>>>>> gauge
>>>>> reads just above “cold” range as mine does when riding in cool
>>>>> weather
>>>>> conditions?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3)      How do #1 and #2 above correlate, and
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4)      Is the temp gauge reading caused by an improper manufacturing
>>>>> specification for the selected gauge, or is it actually an operating
>>>>> temperature problem, perhaps caused by improper mfg. specification for
>>>>> the
>>>>> thermostat?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perspiring minds want to know…. ;<D
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill in Yardley, PA
>>>>> <mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net> wkdenton at verizon.net
>>>>> yam650 Listowner
>>>>> '96 ZX1100-E2  "Stealth Rocket"
>>>>> 
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From cardinar at comcast.net  Wed Apr 25 15:43:01 2018
From: cardinar at comcast.net (Rick Cardinal)
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:43:01 -0400
Subject: Who's left? GPZList Digest, Vol 129, Issue 2
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Hey guys, 
I have been MIA for at least 8-9 years, though still getting the list. 
Needless to say, I’ve been busy. 
But I had a few minutes and starting going thru the last few weeks of the Digest. 

Yes, I still have my GPZ. My kid is 27, and he tried to buy it off me, but I am hanging on to it. 

I haven’t started it in at least 5 years. No gas in the tank, since the petcock diaphragm gave out and leaked all the gas out, which I guess is good. 
Never intended to just leave unattended. Shit happens.

So I hope to try and get it going again here in the next couple months. 
So I will be begging for advice. 

Good see familiar names still on the list, especially Charles S.

Glad you guys are still alive and kicking!


Rick Cardinal


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Today's Topics:

   1. Who's left? (dominatr37)
   2. Re: Who's left? (Sid Young)
   3. Re: Who's left? (Randy noneofyourbusiness)
   4. Re: Who's left? (Christopher Bowen)
   5. Re: Who's left? (dominatr37)
   6. Re: Who's left? (Ped)
   7. Re: Who's left? (volkmar)
   8. Re: Who's left? (dominatr37)
   9. Re: Who's left? (Alexander Finger)
  10. RE: Who's left? (Arthur Robinson)
  11. Re: Who's left? (Paul Heim)
  12. Re: Who's left? (Verizon)
  13. RE: Who's left? (LeBlanc, Daniel James)
  14. Re: Who's left? (masonjs at nrtco.net)
  15. RE: [EXTERNAL] Who's left? (Papenfuss, Steven R.)
  16. RE: Who's left? (Arthur Robinson)
  17. Re: Who's left? (Jake Farley)
  18. Re: Who's left? (dominatr37)
  19. Fwd: Almost spring! (Charles Scappaticci)
  20. Fwd: Almost spring! (Charles Scappaticci)
  21. RE: Who's left? Me raising my hand! (William K Denton)
  22. RE: Who's left? (William K Denton)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 21:26:00 -0500
From: "dominatr37" <dominatr37 at optonline.net>
To: "GPZ List" <gpzlist at micapeak.com>
Subject: Who's left?
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Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have their GPZ? 



Ralph L. Angelo, Jr.
Author of cool stuff.
http://RLAngeloJr.com


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 13:12:41 +1000
From: Sid Young <sid.young at gmail.com>
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I have 4 of them, but they are the older models.



Sid Young
https://z900collector.wordpress.com/restoration/
https://sidyoung.com/

My Latest Book is available:
http://www.amazon.com/Rebuild-Japanese-Motorcycles-Motorbooks-Workshop/dp/0760347972

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wrote:

> Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have their GPZ?
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 03:15:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: Randy noneofyourbusiness <tuner_delorean at yahoo.com>
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I do, but its not on the road, but need to do a few minor repairs and want to get it back on road
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 Subject: Who's left?
 To: "Randy" <tuner_delorean at yahoo.com>
 Date: Monday, February 26, 2018, 9:26 PM
 
 Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have
 their GPZ? 
 
 
 
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 22:46:21 -0500
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Still got my 95 and moving it to PA this summer 

-Chris

> On Feb 26, 2018, at 9:26 PM, dominatr37 <dominatr37 at optonline.net> wrote:
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> Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have their GPZ? 
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 22:53:21 -0500
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So there are still 95/96's left in the group. 



Ralph L. Angelo, Jr.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 05:28:51 +0000
From: Ped <gpz1100abs at gmail.com>
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I have mine too :) Now with 194.000 km (120.000 miles) on the odo. And 
planning several long rides (again) this year :)

Ped
'96 "Black Stealth" GPZ
Denmark

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>Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have their GPZ?
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:00:34 +0100
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I do also


Von meinem Samsung S7 edge gesendet.
-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------Von: dominatr37 <dominatr37 at optonline.net> Datum: 27.02.18  03:26  (GMT+01:00) An: Volkmar Heinz <volkmar at heinz-flb.de> Betreff: Who's left? 
Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have their GPZ? 



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 04:32:13 -0500
From: dominatr37 <dominatr37 at optonline.net>
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Great, Ped! So there are a couple of us left. 


Ralph L Angelo Jr Author of Cool Stuff Http://RLAngeloJr.com
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-------- Original message --------From: Ped <gpz1100abs at gmail.com> Date: 2/27/18  12:28 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Ralph <dominatr37 at optonline.net> Subject: Re: Who's left? 
I have mine too :) Now with 194.000 km (120.000 miles) on the odo. And 
planning several long rides (again) this year :)

Ped
'96 "Black Stealth" GPZ
Denmark

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>Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have their GPZ?
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 13:59:42 +0100
From: Alexander Finger <af at genevainformation.ch>
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Subject: Re: Who's left?
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"me too" - I just put in a new LI-ION battery. I'll be taking her out to
the alps this year again :)

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>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 08:21:43 -0500
From: "Arthur Robinson" <art.robinson at rogers.com>
To: "'GPZ List'" <gpzlist at lists.micapeak.com>
Subject: RE: Who's left?
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One more here.. about 140K 

Art in TO, Canada


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Sent: February 27, 2018 8:00 AM
To: art.robinson at rogers.com
Subject: Re: Who's left?

"me too" - I just put in a new LI-ION battery. I'll be taking her out to
the alps this year again :)

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 07:24:29 -0600
From: Paul Heim <pmheimjr at gmail.com>
To: GPZ List <gpzlist at lists.micapeak.com>
Subject: Re: Who's left?
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I have mine, 14 years in my possession last fall.

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 27, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Arthur Robinson <art.robinson at rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> One more here.. about 140K 
> 
> Art in TO, Canada
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GPZList [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] On Behalf Of Alexander Finger
> Sent: February 27, 2018 8:00 AM
> To: art.robinson at rogers.com
> Subject: Re: Who's left?
> 
> "me too" - I just put in a new LI-ION battery. I'll be taking her out to
> the alps this year again :)
> 
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 3:26 AM, dominatr37 <dominatr37 at optonline.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have their GPZ?
>> 
>> 
>> Ralph L. Angelo, Jr.
>> Author of cool stuff.
>> http://RLAngeloJr.com
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 08:49:58 -0500
From: Verizon <wkdenton at verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: Who's left?
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Ralph, I still have mine. Shall we organize a ZX1100-E1/2 survivor’s ride? 

William K Denton
wkdenton at verizon.net
215-428-3981 home/office
267-980-7788 cell

> On Feb 26, 2018, at 9:26 PM, dominatr37 <dominatr37 at optonline.net> wrote:
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> Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have their GPZ? 
> 
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 13:58:57 +0000
From: "LeBlanc, Daniel James" <daniel.leblanc at bellaliant.ca>
To: GPZ List <gpzlist at lists.micapeak.com>
Subject: RE: Who's left?
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I still have mine as well.

Dan L.

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Sent: February-27-18 9:24 AM
To: LeBlanc, Daniel James
Subject: Re: Who's left?

I have mine, 14 years in my possession last fall.

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 27, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Arthur Robinson <art.robinson at rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> One more here.. about 140K
> 
> Art in TO, Canada
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GPZList [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alexander Finger
> Sent: February 27, 2018 8:00 AM
> To: art.robinson at rogers.com
> Subject: Re: Who's left?
> 
> "me too" - I just put in a new LI-ION battery. I'll be taking her out 
> to the alps this year again :)
> 
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 3:26 AM, dominatr37 <dominatr37 at optonline.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have their GPZ?
>> 
>> 
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:16:18 -0500
From: masonjs at nrtco.net
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Subject: Re: Who's left?
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Mine is 10 years gone.  I couldn't afford to insure 2 bikes in Canada 
when I toured the trans - Labrador highway with Steve  back in '08.  
With the cost of insurance here you need to be Pablo Escobar to insure 
2 bikes. The GPZ was not the bike for 1500 km of gravel roads so I 
sold it & bought a Suzuki Vstrom..  Then the Suzuki Vstrom wasn't the 
best either.
I may see Scap in a week or so.  he's going to bike week in Daytona & 
I'm hiding from the Canadian winter in South Daytona.
Jim



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> Great, Ped! So there are a couple of us left.
>
>
> Ralph L Angelo Jr Author of Cool Stuff Http://RLAngeloJr.com
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.
> -------- Original message --------From: Ped <gpz1100abs at gmail.com> 
> Date: 2/27/18  12:28 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Ralph 
> <dominatr37 at optonline.net> Subject: Re: Who's left?
> I have mine too :) Now with 194.000 km (120.000 miles) on the odo. And
> planning several long rides (again) this year :)
>
> Ped
> '96 "Black Stealth" GPZ
> Denmark
>
> ------ Original Meddelelse ------
> Fra: "dominatr37" <dominatr37 at optonline.net>
> Til: "ped" <gpz1100abs at gmail.com>
> Sendt: 27-02-2018 03:26:00
> Emne: Who's left?
>
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 14:20:06 +0000
From: "Papenfuss, Steven R." <Steven.Papenfuss2 at va.gov>
To: GPZ List <gpzlist at lists.micapeak.com>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Who's left?
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I still have mine.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 7:26 PM
To: Papenfuss, Steven R. <Steven.Papenfuss2 at va.gov>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Who's left?

Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have their GPZ? 



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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:21:46 -0500
From: "Arthur Robinson" <art.robinson at rogers.com>
To: "'GPZ List'" <gpzlist at lists.micapeak.com>
Subject: RE: Who's left?
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I bought my bright red '95 brand-new in '97... I've had her 21 years and she still tugs at my heartstrings every time I see her! I guess it's Love!

Art in TO, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: GPZList [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] On Behalf Of LeBlanc, Daniel James
Sent: February 27, 2018 8:59 AM
To: art.robinson at rogers.com
Subject: RE: Who's left?

I still have mine as well.

Dan L.

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From: GPZList [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] On Behalf Of Paul Heim
Sent: February-27-18 9:24 AM
To: LeBlanc, Daniel James
Subject: Re: Who's left?

I have mine, 14 years in my possession last fall.

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 27, 2018, at 7:21 AM, Arthur Robinson <art.robinson at rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> One more here.. about 140K
> 
> Art in TO, Canada
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GPZList [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alexander Finger
> Sent: February 27, 2018 8:00 AM
> To: art.robinson at rogers.com
> Subject: Re: Who's left?
> 
> "me too" - I just put in a new LI-ION battery. I'll be taking her out 
> to the alps this year again :)
> 
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 3:26 AM, dominatr37 <dominatr37 at optonline.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have their GPZ?
>> 
>> 
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 14:24:23 +0000
From: Jake Farley <jakemfarley at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Who's left?
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I still have my ‘96, I just bought it a couple years ago and I don’t expect
it to go anytime soon.

Jake.

On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:21 AM Arthur Robinson <art.robinson at rogers.com>
wrote:

> I bought my bright red '95 brand-new in '97... I've had her 21 years and
> she still tugs at my heartstrings every time I see her! I guess it's Love!
>
> Art in TO, Canada
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> LeBlanc, Daniel James
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> I still have mine as well.
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> Dan L.
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> Paul Heim
> Sent: February-27-18 9:24 AM
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> I have mine, 14 years in my possession last fall.
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> Sent from my iPad
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> > One more here.. about 140K
> >
> > Art in TO, Canada
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> >
> > "me too" - I just put in a new LI-ION battery. I'll be taking her out
> > to the alps this year again :)
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 3:26 AM, dominatr37 <dominatr37 at optonline.net>
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> >> Who, beside Charles, Steve and I still have their GPZ?
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:41:38 -0500
From: dominatr37 <dominatr37 at optonline.net>
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Subject: Re: Who's left?
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Hahahaha, might not be a bad idea, Bill. 


Ralph L Angelo Jr Author of Cool Stuff Http://RLAngeloJr.com
Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.
-------- Original message --------From: Verizon <wkdenton at verizon.net> Date: 2/27/18  8:49 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Ralph <dominatr37 at optonline.net> Subject: Re: Who's left? 
Ralph, I still have mine. Shall we organize a ZX1100-E1/2 survivor’s ride? 

William K Denton
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> On Feb 26, 2018, at 9:26 PM, dominatr37 <dominatr37 at optonline.net> wrote:
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 08:22:44 -0700
From: Charles Scappaticci <scapco at ecentral.com>
To: Kawasaki GPZ1100 Discussion <gpzlist at micapeak.com>, GPZ List
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Subject: Fwd: Almost spring!
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We had a super nice weekend in Colorado weekend before last, so I took
advantage of the weather to get the street bikes out for a little work and
a short ride to blow the cobwebs out.

Saturday I pulled my BMW F800GT out to put a new battery in, as the
expensive Lithium one died in less than 8 months.  I also wanted to try out
the new adjustable windscreen I put on it a month ago. Very happy with the
lesser amount of wind which will be nice in the spring and fall.

I got the GPZ out Sunday to put the new registration on and take it for a
short spin. Even after nearly 21 years of ownership, it still manages to
put a smile on my face when I crank the throttle back and let it go. Now
that I have decided to keep it, I’ve got to do some work on it starting
with a valve adjustment, cam chain tensioner adjustment, new plugs, an oil
change and a carb sync. I will also start saving for a valve job as it’s
burning a little oil these days.

Interestingly, I found a set of Givi bag mounts for my BMW that will allow
me to put the GPZ’s bigger hard bags on it. The BMW’s bags are nice and
very well integrated, but only hold 55 liters and aren't really big enough
for a long trip. The European GPZ bags I got via Bob Sims many years ago,
are 72 liters and I can also use my small 21 liter Givi’s on the same
mounts. It will be interesting to see how it all works once I get them
mounted.

Here’s a picture on the big red rocket taken last Sunday.  Glad to see
quite a few listers still have their GPZ's.

Jim, I look forward to dinner with you and your better half a week from
this Saturday on the 10th in Daytona Beach.

Regards,
Charles S.
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 08:22:44 -0700
From: Charles Scappaticci <scapco at ecentral.com>
To: Kawasaki GPZ1100 Discussion <gpzlist at micapeak.com>, GPZ List
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Subject: Fwd: Almost spring!
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We had a super nice weekend in Colorado weekend before last, so I took
advantage of the weather to get the street bikes out for a little work and
a short ride to blow the cobwebs out.

Saturday I pulled my BMW F800GT out to put a new battery in, as the
expensive Lithium one died in less than 8 months.  I also wanted to try out
the new adjustable windscreen I put on it a month ago. Very happy with the
lesser amount of wind which will be nice in the spring and fall.

I got the GPZ out Sunday to put the new registration on and take it for a
short spin. Even after nearly 21 years of ownership, it still manages to
put a smile on my face when I crank the throttle back and let it go. Now
that I have decided to keep it, I’ve got to do some work on it starting
with a valve adjustment, cam chain tensioner adjustment, new plugs, an oil
change and a carb sync. I will also start saving for a valve job as it’s
burning a little oil these days.

Interestingly, I found a set of Givi bag mounts for my BMW that will allow
me to put the GPZ’s bigger hard bags on it. The BMW’s bags are nice and
very well integrated, but only hold 55 liters and aren't really big enough
for a long trip. The European GPZ bags I got via Bob Sims many years ago,
are 72 liters and I can also use my small 21 liter Givi’s on the same
mounts. It will be interesting to see how it all works once I get them
mounted.

Here’s a picture on the big red rocket taken last Sunday.  Glad to see
quite a few listers still have their GPZ's.

Jim, I look forward to dinner with you and your better half a week from
this Saturday on the 10th in Daytona Beach.

Regards,
Charles S.
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 10:46:38 -0500
From: "William K Denton" <wkdenton at verizon.net>
To: "'GPZ List'" <gpzlist at lists.micapeak.com>
Subject: RE: Who's left? Me raising my hand!
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I've thought about selling the big ol' girl several times, and even listed it FS once, briefly, before coming to my senses.  I realized long ago that it's worth much more to me than anyone else, so I'm keeping it. At this point, the initial purchase price divided by years of ownership is down to $270/year, so how can I lose?

The bike is rock solid in so many ways that I've always had a hard time finding fault with it. My Report card after 20 years of ownership:

Price to value = A+
Long distance rides = A+
High speed sweepers = A+
Backroads = A
Tight technical riding = C+
Ride comfort = A* (* = equipped w/ GenMar risers and Russell daylong saddle) 
Ease of maintenance = A** ( ** = carb R&R = D)
Cost of ownership = A (maintenance, insurance, & registration)
Fuel economy = A (because 42mpg running E10 in a 560 lb, 1100cc bike is awesome in my book!)
Dependability = A+ (insert sound of me knocking on wood)
Style/Looks = A (in a 90's sort of way lol)
Power/Acceleration A+
Passenger accommodations = A
Luggage = B- (the OEM "hard" bags look great and are roomy enough, but additional effort is req'd to keep contents dry)
Tire wear = B- (front always seems to cup, regardless of brand)
Weight = C ( at 560 lbs kinda porky, my only legitimate gripe)

Overall, this bike is great and I have never regretted buying or owning it. I've often thought (and even said out loud a few times) that if I had to sell all my bikes, the GPz would be the one I'd keep. Alas, since acquiring my '80 CB-X in 2003, the concept of selling all except one might be a bit more difficult to accomplish, because the X is such a deliciously complicated, yet brilliant piece of machinery, and fun to boot, so it would be very difficult to part with it.

Ahhhhh... first world problems. Have a great day, everyone!


William K. Denton
wkdenton at verizon.net
215-428-3981 home/office
267-980-7788 cell

-----Original Message-----
From: GPZList [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] On Behalf Of Jake Farley
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 9:24 AM
To: Bill Denton
Subject: Re: Who's left?

I still have my ‘96, I just bought it a couple years ago and I don’t expect it to go anytime soon.

Jake.





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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 10:52:07 -0500
From: "William K Denton" <wkdenton at verizon.net>
To: "'GPZ List'" <gpzlist at lists.micapeak.com>
Subject: RE: Who's left?
Message-ID: <00c901d3afe2$ecd4b8f0$c67e2ad0$@verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Jim,

It sucks that you had to let go of a second bike (just) because of insurance costs. Why is insurance so costly in Northern America? Are you insuring fully or just liability?


William K. Denton
wkdenton at verizon.net
215-428-3981 home/office
267-980-7788 cell

-----Original Message-----
From: GPZList [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] On Behalf Of masonjs at nrtco.net

Mine is 10 years gone.  I couldn't afford to insure 2 bikes in Canada when I toured the trans - Labrador highway with Steve  back in '08.  




End of GPZList Digest, Vol 129, Issue 2
***************************************


From scapco at ecentral.com  Thu Apr 26 13:28:28 2018
From: scapco at ecentral.com (Charles Scappaticci)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 14:28:28 -0600
Subject: Who's left? GPZList Digest, Vol 129, Issue 2
In-Reply-To: <20180425224310.B9B7AFB555@lists.micapeak.com>
References: <mailman.3.1519761601.4900.gpzlist@lists.micapeak.com>
 <20180425224310.B9B7AFB555@lists.micapeak.com>
Message-ID: <CAAxb4DcT9tgq-DHpe2rUWV+CeRfHPbeGQ_1U9-d8y-go4hFL-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Rick,

I remember you, it's good to hear you are still in the list and still own
your GPZ.  Since I made the decision to keep mine I'm looking forward to
getting it out and having some fun this summer.  No long trips planned, but
lots of fun short ones, likely including a trip down to Durango and to
Silverton for some scenic riding and a visit with my old roommate.  Also
taking it to Sturgis in August for the first time since 1997.

Good luck on getting it back on the road, let us know how it goes.

Charles S.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 4:43 PM, Rick Cardinal <cardinar at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hey guys,
> I have been MIA for at least 8-9 years, though still getting the list.
> Needless to say, I’ve been busy.
> But I had a few minutes and starting going thru the last few weeks of the
> Digest.
>
> Yes, I still have my GPZ. My kid is 27, and he tried to buy it off me, but
> I am hanging on to it.
>
> I haven’t started it in at least 5 years. No gas in the tank, since the
> petcock diaphragm gave out and leaked all the gas out, which I guess is
> good.
> Never intended to just leave unattended. Shit happens.
>
> So I hope to try and get it going again here in the next couple months.
> So I will be begging for advice.
>
> Good see familiar names still on the list, especially Charles S.
>
> Glad you guys are still alive and kicking!
>
>
> Rick Cardinal
>
>
>

From richie at webhackande.se  Fri Apr 27 02:17:21 2018
From: richie at webhackande.se (Rickard Olsson)
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:17:21 +0200
Subject: Who's left? GPZList Digest, Vol 129, Issue 2
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I'm still here, still have my baby.

She is, however, not in the best condition, I must confess.
I have neglected her and I'm not sure she even starts right now. :-(

/ Richie