[BaseCamp] List traffic (or lack thereof)

[Nancy Lefcourt]

Maura,  the BMR app update is available in the app store.

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: -=maura=- <moteramaura at gmail.com> </div><div>Date:01/27/2015  10:21 AM  (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: BaseCamp <basecamp at micapeak.com> </div><div>Subject: Re: [BaseCamp] List traffic (or lack thereof) </div><div>
</div>hahaha
You are a brave man to say P vs NP on the BaseCamp list :))))
I lack such courage , I tried a while back to explain the issue on the 
LD rider list and let just say I convinced no one, discussion continued 
on how great streets and trips optimized a route, when in my experience, 
I could easily make it fail , either by causing the program to crash or 
making it make a route which was obviously not the optimum.
The really important rally take-away is that attempting to use route 
optimization often causes a computer crash if the route is even slightly 
complex (20+ points) , which is a very bad thing if you are on-the-clock 
rally planning. Thus, I avoid it like poison :)

Over in the BMR forum, I fear I may have provided misinformation on the 
app. Is it in the play store? I thought it was not, but that may have 
only been me receiving it early. maybe get RJ to delete my post if not 
correct?

App 2.12 working well, no issues to report. The way the rally works, you 
have to sometimes take a couple of pics to get the framing right. If the 
bottom bar affects that, so be it, the app allows you to see the final 
pic, so you check if it is good or not, then 'accept' . The'why' it is 
not framed perfectly the first time is not a concern,  just get 'er done 
and move on :)

I am having such fun in the BMR, and love the app, so let me  send you 
another BIG THANKS.

Maura



On 22/01/2015 6:20 AM, Joel Tolbert wrote:
> <snip>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Chris Rasmussen <crasmussen at carolina.rr.com
>> wrote:
> Of interest, when I load a route to my Zumo 665, it will normally calculate
> a much faster time than what BC has calculated.
> </snip>
>
> I have found the same.  I track my stops in a rally by their expected
> arrival time in Basecamp.  I have found that both of my GPS units
> consistently underestimate total time, and Basecamp has been the consistent
> winner in the the "time to HQ" department.  This experience over a number
> of rallys has taught me to not get too excited about being ahead of GPS eta
> when 4 hours into a rally, as invariably I arrive to HQ workers staring at
> watches performing the dreaded countdown to DNF.
>
> Admittedly, I have trained Basecamp over the last few years to know how how
> I ride/rally here in the US mid-atlantic, making this strategy possible.
>
> <snip>
> Master Maura wrote:
> "(it) is one of the most intensively studied problems in computational
> mathematics"
> </snip>
>
> Not to put too fine a point on Maura's comment, but I will for those hoping
> for an "optimize my route" function.  There has been a $1million (US)
> bounty placed on solving this "traveling salesman" (P vs NP) riddle by the
> Clay Institute.  UPS, FedEx, MIT, Princeton, and nearly every aspiring
> geospatial computer programmer have had their (collective) minds absorbed
> by this prize  http://www.claymath.org/millenium-problems/p-vs-np-problem.
> If you want the Cliff notes:  "There ain't no way in hell your "intel
> inside" netbook, or 20 year old GPS chip are giving you an optimized
> route."  You will not see that wizard to your satisfaction, not no way, not
> no how, regardless of your choice of computer hardware.  There's nearly 40
> years of digital heartbreak on this twisted road with no end (yet) in sight.
>
>
>
> --Joel Tolbert
> Bethlehem, PA
> http://www.BubblerGPS.com
>
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