[BaseCamp] Way Point limitations Question

Wed Jul 19 22:50:37 PDT 2017

Thank you Jerry. I think I have it now.

Thank you for the link Ashley.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen/With best regards,

Dennis C. O'Dell
denniscodell at icloud.com
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> On Jul 20, 2017, at 12:53 AM, Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Open the route in Basecamp.
> In the Properties tab (the one that you see when you first double click a
> route), you'll see your route and all its waypoints.
> Right click a waypoint, select Don't Alert On Arrival.
> That turns the WP into a Shaping Point.
> 
> Now, it's been awhile since I've used it, and thanks to Ashley for finding
> the Unflag program. I believe that's the right program but can't test it
> right now. You will have to export your route out of BC into the format
> that Unflag likes. Probably GPX but it also might like GDB. Run Unflag, and
> then import the new file back into BC, and then load it onto your GPS.
> 
> When you're riding a route that's been "unflagged" you have to be careful
> of what happens when you deviate from it. As soon as your GPS recalculates
> the active, unflagged route, it loses all it's magic. You'll just get
> routed directly to the end point. If this happens you need to get yourself
> back onto the original route and re-start the unflagged route. Best to use
> prompted recalculation so that you don't recalc the route.
> 
> If your route has some actual waypoints that you want to use, then you'll
> need to split the route into separate legs. Unflag will remove all points
> between the start and finish. So if you want to ride A to B to C, you'll
> need Unflagged A to B, and Unflagged B to C.
> 
> Hope this helps. (And I hope it works! It's been awhile since I did any of
> this stuff.) If it turns out to be a wild goose chase, I apologize.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:36 PM, DENNIS O'DELL <denniscodell at icloud.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, but you lost me...
>> 
>> How do I convert way point to via points in BC?
>> 
>> What's PONI and where do I get it?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen/With best regards,
>> 
>> Dennis C. O'Dell
>> denniscodell at icloud.com
>> Mobile: +49 (175) 855 6663
>> Home: +49 911 277 45370
>> Skype: diggertfu
>> Hochstrasse 19
>> Nürnberg 90429
>> Germany
>> 
>> "Laughter and Tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I
>> myself prefer to Laugh since there is less to do afterwards."
>> - Kurt Vonnegut
>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> PONI Killer is your friend. Convert the waypoints to via points in BC,
>> then
>>> run poni killer.
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:55 AM Eric Bray <edb4378 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The waypoint limit is a function of the specific GPS--every Garmin is
>>>> different.  Some count shaping points against that limit, others do not.
>>>> It is a constraint that you will have to deal with.
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Bray
>>>> Alexandria, VA
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:34 PM, DENNIS O'DELL <
>> denniscodell at icloud.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>> I am sure this has been covered before, but I do not seem to find
>>>> anything.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The question is regarding the number of way points allowed in a route.
>> A
>>>>> friend created several routes for a trip we have recently taken. Each
>>>> route
>>>>> is an average of 225 kilometers. He seems to really like the nice
>> little
>>>>> default blue flag icon that Garmin uses for way points, so he has
>>>> inserted
>>>>> 40 to 50 way points in each route. I asked why, but did not get a
>>>> sensible
>>>>> answer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I imported his routes into Base Camp (version 4.2.4) all is good.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I upload them to my BMW Navigator V (software version 3.40) I get
>> a
>>>>> message that there is a limit of 29 way points per route and that the
>>>> route
>>>>> has been split into two routes. The routes then show up as "Route ABC
>> 1",
>>>>> "Route ABC 2”, “Route XYZ 1”, “Route XYZ 2” and so forth for each
>> route.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Each route calculates as expected when I load the route on the GPS for
>>>>> viewing/navigation. However, the fun comes when you reach the last way
>>>>> point in the active route. There isn’t any warning that I noticed
>> telling
>>>>> me I’m at the end of the route. Therefore, I did not know when to
>> switch
>>>>> from Route ABC 1 to Route ABC 2. This caused much confusion for me. It
>>>>> seems that I would get an "Off Route Recalculate?” message. I have
>>>>> Recalculate set to Manual, and so I would hit Yes. It seems that since
>> I
>>>>> was now past the last way point in the route the recalculation would
>> want
>>>>> to route me back to the last way point in the route. After awhile I
>>>> figured
>>>>> this out and switched to the second portion of the route (Route ABC 2).
>>>>> Then, depending on how far past the first way point in the new route,
>> the
>>>>> route picked up nicely or may not pick up so nicely if I was too far
>> past
>>>>> the first way point. When it did not play nice I would get the "Off
>> Route
>>>>> Recalculate?” message again, hit Yes and would be turned around again
>>>>> (which I learned to ignore pretty quickly).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have not had this problem with routes I create myself, but I always
>>>> hold
>>>>> the number of way points to under 29.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My friend’s very old Garmin Zimo (sorry, I don’t have the specs for it)
>>>>> did not encounter the 29 way point limit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are both using Map Version "City Navigator Europe NTU 2018.1"
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had considered deleting many of the way points to bring the number
>> down
>>>>> to under 29, but that is a real PITA, plus I was concerned it may
>> change
>>>>> the routing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If anyone can put some light on this to make life easier I would be
>>>>> greatly appreciative.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dennis C. O'Dell
>>>>> Hochstrasse 19
>>>>> 90429 Nürnberg
>>>>> Germany
>>>>> denniscodell at icloud.com
>>>>> Mobile: +49 175 855 6663
>>>>> Home: +49 911 277 45370
>>>>> Skype: diggertfu
>>>>> Blog: http://www.diggersmotorradadventures.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> "If we don't change direction soon, we'll end up where we're going."
>>>>> - Professor Irwin Corey
>>>>> 
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