From ironbutter at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 05:34:27 2018
From: ironbutter at gmail.com (saddle sore)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:34:27 -0500
Subject: [BaseCamp] tracks converted to routes
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Viewing a track on BaseCamp, I see the track points (via points??) as black
dots along the track.  Converting the track to a route, then opening the
properties box, none of those track/via points are converted to waypoints
except the beginning and ending points.  Yet, the turn by turn directions
indicate every track/via point registered in the track to route
conversion.  The map will show that the route line follows the track line
exactly.  But the properties box does not give me that confidence.

Is there a way to get those track/via points to become waypoints?  Since I
use older GPS devices, for now, I am manually dropping in enough waypoints
onto the route to ensure my device does not 'recalculate' and get me off
the intended route, which is the original track.

Thanks,  Joe Y

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From jerrywhite518 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 07:26:48 2018
From: jerrywhite518 at gmail.com (Jerry White)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:26:48 -0700
Subject: [BaseCamp] tracks converted to routes
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Pretty sure you’ve described exactly how it works. You’re going to have to
make your own waypoints. I haven’t found a way to convert a track point to
a waypoint. But it’s easy enough to drop one on top of a track point.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!!
Jerry


On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:35 AM saddle sore <ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Viewing a track on BaseCamp, I see the track points (via points??) as black
> dots along the track.  Converting the track to a route, then opening the
> properties box, none of those track/via points are converted to waypoints
> except the beginning and ending points.  Yet, the turn by turn directions
> indicate every track/via point registered in the track to route
> conversion.  The map will show that the route line follows the track line
> exactly.  But the properties box does not give me that confidence.
>
> Is there a way to get those track/via points to become waypoints?  Since I
> use older GPS devices, for now, I am manually dropping in enough waypoints
> onto the route to ensure my device does not 'recalculate' and get me off
> the intended route, which is the original track.
>
> Thanks,  Joe Y
>
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From jerrywhite518 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 07:26:48 2018
From: jerrywhite518 at gmail.com (Jerry White)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 08:26:48 -0700
Subject: [BaseCamp] tracks converted to routes
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Pretty sure you’ve described exactly how it works. You’re going to have to
make your own waypoints. I haven’t found a way to convert a track point to
a waypoint. But it’s easy enough to drop one on top of a track point.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!!
Jerry


On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:35 AM saddle sore <ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Viewing a track on BaseCamp, I see the track points (via points??) as black
> dots along the track.  Converting the track to a route, then opening the
> properties box, none of those track/via points are converted to waypoints
> except the beginning and ending points.  Yet, the turn by turn directions
> indicate every track/via point registered in the track to route
> conversion.  The map will show that the route line follows the track line
> exactly.  But the properties box does not give me that confidence.
>
> Is there a way to get those track/via points to become waypoints?  Since I
> use older GPS devices, for now, I am manually dropping in enough waypoints
> onto the route to ensure my device does not 'recalculate' and get me off
> the intended route, which is the original track.
>
> Thanks,  Joe Y
>
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From kwthom at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 21 08:44:00 2018
From: kwthom at yahoo.com (Ken Thompson)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 16:44:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [BaseCamp] tracks converted to routes
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 GPSBabel does conversions between the various types of data points in a GPX file, so it could do what you're needing to accomplish.

https://www.gpsbabel.org/


--Ken


    On Friday, December 21, 2018, 8:27:35 AM MST, Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Pretty sure you’ve described exactly how it works. You’re going to have to
make your own waypoints. I haven’t found a way to convert a track point to
a waypoint. But it’s easy enough to drop one on top of a track point.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!!
Jerry


On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:35 AM saddle sore <ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Viewing a track on BaseCamp, I see the track points (via points??) as black
> dots along the track.  Converting the track to a route, then opening the
> properties box, none of those track/via points are converted to waypoints
> except the beginning and ending points.  Yet, the turn by turn directions
> indicate every track/via point registered in the track to route
> conversion.  The map will show that the route line follows the track line
> exactly.  But the properties box does not give me that confidence.
>
> Is there a way to get those track/via points to become waypoints?  Since I
> use older GPS devices, for now, I am manually dropping in enough waypoints
> onto the route to ensure my device does not 'recalculate' and get me off
> the intended route, which is the original track.
>
> Thanks,  Joe Y
>
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From ironbutter at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 08:48:27 2018
From: ironbutter at gmail.com (saddle sore)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 11:48:27 -0500
Subject: [BaseCamp] tracks converted to routes
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Thanks Jerry.  I was hoping for more, but, oh well....   I appreciate the
help.


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On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 10:27 AM Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Pretty sure you’ve described exactly how it works. You’re going to have to
> make your own waypoints. I haven’t found a way to convert a track point to
> a waypoint. But it’s easy enough to drop one on top of a track point.
>
> Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!!
> Jerry
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:35 AM saddle sore <ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Viewing a track on BaseCamp, I see the track points (via points??) as
> black
> > dots along the track.  Converting the track to a route, then opening the
> > properties box, none of those track/via points are converted to waypoints
> > except the beginning and ending points.  Yet, the turn by turn directions
> > indicate every track/via point registered in the track to route
> > conversion.  The map will show that the route line follows the track line
> > exactly.  But the properties box does not give me that confidence.
> >
> > Is there a way to get those track/via points to become waypoints?  Since
> I
> > use older GPS devices, for now, I am manually dropping in enough
> waypoints
> > onto the route to ensure my device does not 'recalculate' and get me off
> > the intended route, which is the original track.
> >
> > Thanks,  Joe Y
> >
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From ironbutter at gmail.com  Fri Dec 21 08:48:27 2018
From: ironbutter at gmail.com (saddle sore)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 11:48:27 -0500
Subject: [BaseCamp] tracks converted to routes
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Thanks Jerry.  I was hoping for more, but, oh well....   I appreciate the
help.


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On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 10:27 AM Jerry White <jerrywhite518 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Pretty sure you’ve described exactly how it works. You’re going to have to
> make your own waypoints. I haven’t found a way to convert a track point to
> a waypoint. But it’s easy enough to drop one on top of a track point.
>
> Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!!
> Jerry
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:35 AM saddle sore <ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Viewing a track on BaseCamp, I see the track points (via points??) as
> black
> > dots along the track.  Converting the track to a route, then opening the
> > properties box, none of those track/via points are converted to waypoints
> > except the beginning and ending points.  Yet, the turn by turn directions
> > indicate every track/via point registered in the track to route
> > conversion.  The map will show that the route line follows the track line
> > exactly.  But the properties box does not give me that confidence.
> >
> > Is there a way to get those track/via points to become waypoints?  Since
> I
> > use older GPS devices, for now, I am manually dropping in enough
> waypoints
> > onto the route to ensure my device does not 'recalculate' and get me off
> > the intended route, which is the original track.
> >
> > Thanks,  Joe Y
> >
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From ironbutter at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 06:14:51 2018
From: ironbutter at gmail.com (saddle sore)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2018 09:14:51 -0500
Subject: [BaseCamp] tracks converted to routes
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Ken
Thanks for the GPSBabel idea.  I've not played around with it ever before.
So after multiple tries to figure out what exactly GPSBabel was doing (it
was not user friendly or intuitive to this user) I got it to work!!  Their
user guides that I could find on-line seem to be a bit on the technical
side of the explanation.   Since I don't use these things enough to often
remember from time to time how I got what I wanted the last time, I jotted
down the "instructions"  for myself and saved them.  Here's the process I
used to successfully convert track points to way points.  Jerry, check it
out!!!  https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uogp_l6PMrzqhz_UZjRtqAqRTUEhhg-E
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 12:10 PM Ken Thompson <kwthom at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Joe,
>
> The user guides & glossary on-line really explains things quite well.
>
> You still have the knowledge of the logic behind "turn X into Y", so it
> may be something to check out.
>
> I had a similar issue with the GPX formatting my Goldwing's neutered
> Garmin GPS liked best.  So, a combination between GPSBabel and Basecamp
> made it easy enough for me to do my routing for my 48-in-18 earlier this
> year and use the bike's GPS.
>
> GPSBabel official download <https://www.gpsbabel.org/download.html>
>
> Simply pick the OS of your choice; both versions are included in the
> download.
>
> Good luck!
>
> --Ken
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 21, 2018, 9:57:01 AM MST, saddle sore <
> ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ken
>
> I've heard about GPSbabel, and it seemed heavy on the user needing
> programming knowledge.  True?
>
> My programming days ended back around 1980.   I hear there is a Quick
> version and I've seen images of GUI templates that make it look stupid-user
> friendly (that would be me), but I can't find any downloads specific to
> that.  The download on the GPSBabel site doesn't indicate which, so I
> haven't done the download yet.
>
> Joe
>
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> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 11:44 AM Ken Thompson <kwthom at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  GPSBabel does conversions between the various types of data points in a
> GPX file, so it could do what you're needing to accomplish.
>
> https://www.gpsbabel.org/
>
>
> --Ken
>
>
>     On Friday, December 21, 2018, 8:27:35 AM MST, Jerry White <
> jerrywhite518 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Pretty sure you’ve described exactly how it works. You’re going to have to
> make your own waypoints. I haven’t found a way to convert a track point to
> a waypoint. But it’s easy enough to drop one on top of a track point.
>
> Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!!
> Jerry
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:35 AM saddle sore <ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Viewing a track on BaseCamp, I see the track points (via points??) as
> black
> > dots along the track.  Converting the track to a route, then opening the
> > properties box, none of those track/via points are converted to waypoints
> > except the beginning and ending points.  Yet, the turn by turn directions
> > indicate every track/via point registered in the track to route
> > conversion.  The map will show that the route line follows the track line
> > exactly.  But the properties box does not give me that confidence.
> >
> > Is there a way to get those track/via points to become waypoints?  Since
> I
> > use older GPS devices, for now, I am manually dropping in enough
> waypoints
> > onto the route to ensure my device does not 'recalculate' and get me off
> > the intended route, which is the original track.
> >
> > Thanks,  Joe Y
> >
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From ironbutter at gmail.com  Sat Dec 22 07:10:33 2018
From: ironbutter at gmail.com (saddle sore)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2018 10:10:33 -0500
Subject: [BaseCamp] tracks converted to routes
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oops, I forgot the step to check filters when converting from track points
to waypoints, so try this viewing URL
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1bXXnpQnHx9UtXNYnvMEIQuBZjTm95ltM





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On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 9:14 AM saddle sore <ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ken
> Thanks for the GPSBabel idea.  I've not played around with it ever
> before.  So after multiple tries to figure out what exactly GPSBabel was
> doing (it was not user friendly or intuitive to this user) I got it to
> work!!  Their user guides that I could find on-line seem to be a bit on the
> technical side of the explanation.   Since I don't use these things enough
> to often remember from time to time how I got what I wanted the last time,
> I jotted down the "instructions"  for myself and saved them.  Here's the
> process I used to successfully convert track points to way points.  Jerry,
> check it out!!!
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uogp_l6PMrzqhz_UZjRtqAqRTUEhhg-E
> Thanks for the help!!  Joe Y.
>
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>
>> Joe,
>>
>> The user guides & glossary on-line really explains things quite well.
>>
>> You still have the knowledge of the logic behind "turn X into Y", so it
>> may be something to check out.
>>
>> I had a similar issue with the GPX formatting my Goldwing's neutered
>> Garmin GPS liked best.  So, a combination between GPSBabel and Basecamp
>> made it easy enough for me to do my routing for my 48-in-18 earlier this
>> year and use the bike's GPS.
>>
>> GPSBabel official download <https://www.gpsbabel.org/download.html>
>>
>> Simply pick the OS of your choice; both versions are included in the
>> download.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> --Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 21, 2018, 9:57:01 AM MST, saddle sore <
>> ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> I've heard about GPSbabel, and it seemed heavy on the user needing
>> programming knowledge.  True?
>>
>> My programming days ended back around 1980.   I hear there is a Quick
>> version and I've seen images of GUI templates that make it look stupid-user
>> friendly (that would be me), but I can't find any downloads specific to
>> that.  The download on the GPSBabel site doesn't indicate which, so I
>> haven't done the download yet.
>>
>> Joe
>>
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>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 11:44 AM Ken Thompson <kwthom at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>  GPSBabel does conversions between the various types of data points in a
>> GPX file, so it could do what you're needing to accomplish.
>>
>> https://www.gpsbabel.org/
>>
>>
>> --Ken
>>
>>
>>     On Friday, December 21, 2018, 8:27:35 AM MST, Jerry White <
>> jerrywhite518 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Pretty sure you’ve described exactly how it works. You’re going to have
>> to
>> make your own waypoints. I haven’t found a way to convert a track point to
>> a waypoint. But it’s easy enough to drop one on top of a track point.
>>
>> Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!!
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:35 AM saddle sore <ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Viewing a track on BaseCamp, I see the track points (via points??) as
>> black
>> > dots along the track.  Converting the track to a route, then opening the
>> > properties box, none of those track/via points are converted to
>> waypoints
>> > except the beginning and ending points.  Yet, the turn by turn
>> directions
>> > indicate every track/via point registered in the track to route
>> > conversion.  The map will show that the route line follows the track
>> line
>> > exactly.  But the properties box does not give me that confidence.
>> >
>> > Is there a way to get those track/via points to become waypoints?
>> Since I
>> > use older GPS devices, for now, I am manually dropping in enough
>> waypoints
>> > onto the route to ensure my device does not 'recalculate' and get me off
>> > the intended route, which is the original track.
>> >
>> > Thanks,  Joe Y
>> >
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From kwthom at yahoo.com  Sat Dec 22 10:34:51 2018
From: kwthom at yahoo.com (Ken Thompson)
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2018 18:34:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [BaseCamp] tracks converted to routes
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 Great to read you got it sorted out!
So, the built-in Goldwing GPS ideally wants 'routes' and 'trackpoints'.  The *only* way I was able to sort it out was a combination of messing around with the output of GPSBabel, then feeding those into both BC and the bike.  That took me *weeks* to get smart enough to do that.

Regards,

--Ken

    On Saturday, December 22, 2018, 7:15:30 AM MST, saddle sore <ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Ken
Thanks for the GPSBabel idea.  I've not played around with it ever before.
So after multiple tries to figure out what exactly GPSBabel was doing (it
was not user friendly or intuitive to this user) I got it to work!!  Their
user guides that I could find on-line seem to be a bit on the technical
side of the explanation.  Since I don't use these things enough to often
remember from time to time how I got what I wanted the last time, I jotted
down the "instructions"  for myself and saved them.  Here's the process I
used to successfully convert track points to way points.  Jerry, check it
out!!!  https://drive.google.com/open?id=1uogp_l6PMrzqhz_UZjRtqAqRTUEhhg-E
Thanks for the help!!  Joe Y.

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On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 12:10 PM Ken Thompson <kwthom at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Joe,
>
> The user guides & glossary on-line really explains things quite well.
>
> You still have the knowledge of the logic behind "turn X into Y", so it
> may be something to check out.
>
> I had a similar issue with the GPX formatting my Goldwing's neutered
> Garmin GPS liked best.  So, a combination between GPSBabel and Basecamp
> made it easy enough for me to do my routing for my 48-in-18 earlier this
> year and use the bike's GPS.
>
> GPSBabel official download <https://www.gpsbabel.org/download.html>
>
> Simply pick the OS of your choice; both versions are included in the
> download.
>
> Good luck!
>
> --Ken
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 21, 2018, 9:57:01 AM MST, saddle sore <
> ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ken
>
> I've heard about GPSbabel, and it seemed heavy on the user needing
> programming knowledge.  True?
>
> My programming days ended back around 1980.  I hear there is a Quick
> version and I've seen images of GUI templates that make it look stupid-user
> friendly (that would be me), but I can't find any downloads specific to
> that.  The download on the GPSBabel site doesn't indicate which, so I
> haven't done the download yet.
>
> Joe
>
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> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 11:44 AM Ken Thompson <kwthom at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  GPSBabel does conversions between the various types of data points in a
> GPX file, so it could do what you're needing to accomplish.
>
> https://www.gpsbabel.org/
>
>
> --Ken
>
>
>    On Friday, December 21, 2018, 8:27:35 AM MST, Jerry White <
> jerrywhite518 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Pretty sure you’ve described exactly how it works. You’re going to have to
> make your own waypoints. I haven’t found a way to convert a track point to
> a waypoint. But it’s easy enough to drop one on top of a track point.
>
> Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!!
> Jerry
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:35 AM saddle sore <ironbutter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Viewing a track on BaseCamp, I see the track points (via points??) as
> black
> > dots along the track.  Converting the track to a route, then opening the
> > properties box, none of those track/via points are converted to waypoints
> > except the beginning and ending points.  Yet, the turn by turn directions
> > indicate every track/via point registered in the track to route
> > conversion.  The map will show that the route line follows the track line
> > exactly.  But the properties box does not give me that confidence.
> >
> > Is there a way to get those track/via points to become waypoints?  Since
> I
> > use older GPS devices, for now, I am manually dropping in enough
> waypoints
> > onto the route to ensure my device does not 'recalculate' and get me off
> > the intended route, which is the original track.
> >
> > Thanks,  Joe Y
> >
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From ironbutter at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 09:38:52 2018
From: ironbutter at gmail.com (saddle sore)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 12:38:52 -0500
Subject: [BaseCamp] trackpoints to waypoints, plus POIs
Message-ID: <CAKdj8Co=pcnY+k_wF3Df0pu-n5=UF4h9pX_5FANiEW8YRYhJHw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I was trying to help a guy on another forum understand BaseCamp.  He wanted
to convert BDR tracks to routes and add in their POIs (campgrounds, gas
stations, restaurants, etc...)  I walked him through GPSBabel and converted
all the original trackpoints to waypoints.  Good so far.  Since the BDR
guys didn't have any of their POIs actually part of their tracks, the POIs
had to be selected separately and moved into a BC List with all the
waypoints.  Still all good.   Then there was an attempt to add few POIs to
the route.  Now, mind you, the trackpoints were converted to waypoints and
the track was converted to a route.  So when you open the properties box,
the waypoints appear just like in any other route.  And on the map, the
route follows the roads, exactly.

So, what was the result of adding a few POIs into the route using the green
"plus" sign in the properties box?  Disaster.  While all of the converted
waypoints are connected by roads, the added in POIs are connected by
straight lines.

However, if I just went in and created a new route in BC of the POIs and
some of the trackpoints now converted to waypoints, that route followed the
roads perfectly.

Any thoughts as to why adding POIs to a route does not follow roads, but
creating a route from POIs does?  I'm confused.

Thanks, Joe Y
western PA

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From ldrider at imagesdesavions.com  Thu Dec 27 09:51:57 2018
From: ldrider at imagesdesavions.com (Stephen!)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:51:57 -0600
Subject: [BaseCamp] trackpoints to waypoints, plus POIs
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>Any thoughts as to why adding POIs to a route does not follow roads,
>but creating a route from POIs does?  I'm confused.

Try recalculating the route after exiting the editing box.


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From ldrider at imagesdesavions.com  Thu Dec 27 09:51:57 2018
From: ldrider at imagesdesavions.com (Stephen!)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:51:57 -0600
Subject: [BaseCamp] trackpoints to waypoints, plus POIs
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>Any thoughts as to why adding POIs to a route does not follow roads,
>but creating a route from POIs does?  I'm confused.

Try recalculating the route after exiting the editing box.


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From ironbutter at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 12:52:26 2018
From: ironbutter at gmail.com (saddle sore)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 15:52:26 -0500
Subject: [BaseCamp] trackpoints to waypoints, plus POIs
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Stephen
I used the recalculation while in the properties box as well as when simply
highlighting the route in the databox in the lower left corner of the BC
screen.  The straight lines to the POIs do not change to follow any roads,
they just stay straight lines (and there are roads clearly leading form the
designated route to these POIs).     No matter where in the route I move
the POIs, there are just straight lines between the waypoint and POI.
Joe

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On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 12:51 PM Stephen! <ldrider at imagesdesavions.com>
wrote:

>
>
> >Any thoughts as to why adding POIs to a route does not follow roads,
> >but creating a route from POIs does?  I'm confused.
>
> Try recalculating the route after exiting the editing box.
>
>
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> flashing lights on top of your car look ridiculous.
>

From ironbutter at gmail.com  Thu Dec 27 12:52:26 2018
From: ironbutter at gmail.com (saddle sore)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 15:52:26 -0500
Subject: [BaseCamp] trackpoints to waypoints, plus POIs
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Stephen
I used the recalculation while in the properties box as well as when simply
highlighting the route in the databox in the lower left corner of the BC
screen.  The straight lines to the POIs do not change to follow any roads,
they just stay straight lines (and there are roads clearly leading form the
designated route to these POIs).     No matter where in the route I move
the POIs, there are just straight lines between the waypoint and POI.
Joe

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On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 12:51 PM Stephen! <ldrider at imagesdesavions.com>
wrote:

>
>
> >Any thoughts as to why adding POIs to a route does not follow roads,
> >but creating a route from POIs does?  I'm confused.
>
> Try recalculating the route after exiting the editing box.
>
>
> --
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> flashing lights on top of your car look ridiculous.
>

From ldrider at imagesdesavions.com  Thu Dec 27 13:03:17 2018
From: ldrider at imagesdesavions.com (Stephen!)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2018 15:03:17 -0600
Subject: [BaseCamp] trackpoints to waypoints, plus POIs
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>I used the recalculation while in the properties box as well as when
>simply highlighting the route in the databox in the lower left corner of the

Not sure if it is actually possible, but it MIGHT be that each segment is given a different profile type...  With the route open, try switching between whatever profile is being used and Direct, then go to Motorcycling (or Driving or Hiking, etc).  Also maybe try this with all of the waypoints selected in the Edit Route window...

BTW, in case you cannot tell, I am grasping at straws here but something is telling BC to route those segments directly...  :-)



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