carb problem?
Jerry Clair
darkclarity2k at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 21 20:21:50 PDT 2007
2 clips? WTF. How do I know if I have a 108?
Pilots are at 2 1/2
Steve Northrop <blackgpz at rochester.rr.com> wrote: The baseline installation is the clip in the second groove from the top. There needs to be a washer above the clip and another clip in the first groove, otherwise the white plastic retainer won't hold the needle down tightly. When replacing the white plastic retainer, make sure the feet don't cover the slide lift hole in the bottom of the slide. The main jet should be a 108 and the pilot screws 2 1/2 turns out. Again, these are the baseline Dynojet installation instructions.
Steve in Western NY
'96 GPZ1100
'02 Daytona 955i
"You Can't Fix Stupid", Ron White
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Clair
To: Steve Northrop
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: carb problem?
The clip is on the 3rd from the top. hmm, is that right?
Steve Northrop <blackgpz at rochester.rr.com> wrote: That's the needle that dangles from the slide. You can see it's tapered at the end. The slide raises and lowers the needle relative to a fixed orifice depending on engine load. The main jet is below the needle and provides the fuel that is below the fixed orifice. Whenever I have the carbs off and the slides out, I take a little crocus cloth (very,very fine sandpaper) and smooth out any rough spots, especially on the "wings". Inside the slide is a white plastic retainer that just lifts out, then the needle can come out. If the needle has little grooves at the top with an "e" clip in one of them, a jet kit has been installed. If the needle just has a nail head, it's stock.
Steve in Western NY
'96 GPZ1100
'02 Daytona 955i
"You Can't Fix Stupid", Ron White
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Clair
To: blackgpz at rochester.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: carb problem?
Ah! Master Steve,
The problem is that I don't know WTF I have. Nor do I know
very much of what I'm doing.
1. But I sure can compare the springs from my stocker to No.2.
When I pull the diaphram up & out (thats the main Jet dangling
off the slide -right?)
2. Shouldn't the slides be very smooth in operation?
3. um, what else is down inside there?
blackgpz at rochester.rr.com wrote: Jerry, did you say you thought there was a Dynojet kit installed? If
so, compare the diaphragm springs to the stock ones. If they're shorter
than stock they are NFG. These kits are notorious for an off-idle bog
if you use their springs. Replacing with the stock springs solves the
problem.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Clair
Date: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:46 pm
Subject: carb problem?
To: Kawasaki GPZ1100 discussion
> OK, so I'm not the best mechanic, when it comes to carbs.
> Bye-bye box. wow, what a pain and poor design. and the
> reed valves, really are not like a PVC? I know we just talked
> about this but whats a good wat to plug it?
>
> So, I yank the suckers off, and found the pilots at 3 turns,
> instead of 2 to 2.5 turn, no biggy. Idles great now. The slides
> made different sounds from one another and could be smoother.
> Diaphrams intact and everything basically very clean.
> Still, any acceleration and she bogs to a stall.
>
> So, I'm considering taking the known good carbs off of
> bike 1, and test bike 2 even though, the test will not have
> the air box and using the muzzy as opposed to the stock
> one bike 1.
>
> I'm considering welding a handle to the darn tank at this point!
> Think I should empty the tank first. J/K
>
> Jer
>
>
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