Help - she does not start anymore (stranded..)

john leonard jlmdx at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 8 13:43:40 PDT 2011


The clock isn't on the switched circuit of the ignition. It's always on.

I stand by my resolution to the problem:
>> >>>> I'd check the battery itself, the battery posts and battery cables to make sure everything is up to snuff.
;)


> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 22:23:18 +0200
> Subject: Re: Help - she does not start anymore (stranded..)
> From: af at genevainformation.ch
> To: JLMDX at hotmail.com
> 
> Absolutely not, you stated that the clock is not on the circuit which
> is entirely wrong (grin). You made me read the diagram..I lost 15
> Minutes of my life on that one ;)
> 
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:58 PM, john leonard <jlmdx at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'd say I won that one.
> >
> > jl
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 17:34:24 +0200
> >> Subject: Re: Help - she does not start anymore (stranded..)
> >> From: af at genevainformation.ch
> >> To: JLMDX at hotmail.com
> >>
> >> And the winner is..nobody.
> >>
> >> What has happened is that the plus (red) contact on the battery came
> >> loose. The Mechanic came, tried, tightened it and .. bliss.
> >>
> >> Happy ending, sort of..and thanks to the membership in the german
> >> automobile club without cost.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Alexander Finger
> >> <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
> >> > y, will call the automobile club, they have everything to jump start
> >> > on board (if the wiggling does not wiggle it). If it's the battery
> >> > there's a dealer close by. But wtf, it's brand new..
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Les Johnson <jjohnsonlta at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>      Did you check all fuses. I tried wiggling the key and it sort of
> >> >> made dash lights come on for a flash but it was still battery. I am
> >> >> not sure if jump vs battery quite the same.
> >> >>
> >> >>      Good luck and let us all know what it was when you get it going.
> >> >>
> >> >>      Les J
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Alexander Finger
> >> >> <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
> >> >>> The clock _is_ on the ignition circuit (I just had a look in the
> >> >>> manual). So it looks to me as if rather the ignition switch is the
> >> >>> root cause. Jump starting won't do anything as there is a complete
> >> >>> blackout. If the battery was low, the clock would still run - but it
> >> >>> does not. Also, I remember "low battery" to produce a CRACRACRACRAC
> >> >>> rather than a dry "CLACK". Hey.
> >> >>> I will go to Fribourg and try the "wiggling" of the key. Thinking
> >> >>> about it I just turned it, but did not try to exercise any pressure on
> >> >>> it. Hm.
> >> >>> There's a Kawasaki dealer close by..if nothing works I'll ask them to
> >> >>> fetch her. Sniff.
> >> >>> I'll keep you posted ;)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Alex
> >> >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:46 PM, john leonard <jlmdx at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hi Alex,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I would think that if the clock is also stopping then the issue is battery-based because the clock is not on the ignition circuit.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I'd check the battery itself, the battery posts and battery cables to make sure everything is up to snuff.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> john
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 09:28:56 -0700
> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: Help - she does not start anymore (stranded..)
> >> >>>>> From: jjohnsonlta at gmail.com
> >> >>>>> To: JLMDX at hotmail.com
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>     I had similar thing happen and it was the battery. It was only
> >> >>>>> year old and showed full 12 volts plus and it would not turn engine
> >> >>>>> over or even light dash lights after I heard that CLACK sound. I would
> >> >>>>> try a new battery first if it was me.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>   Les J
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Alexander Finger
> >> >>>>> <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
> >> >>>>> > Guys,
> >> >>>>> > I took the bike to go to my (still) office yesterday and parked her in
> >> >>>>> > the underground. Today I wanted to take off again - key into the right
> >> >>>>> > position, all lights up. I hit the starter, there's a CLACK and then
> >> >>>>> > all lights OUT. Key left right, after a few minutes and some twisting,
> >> >>>>> > the lights go on again, I hit the starter - again CLACK and darkness.
> >> >>>>> > The battery is fresh and full, the fuses are ok. When I put the key
> >> >>>>> > into the drive position, all lights stay out (even the clock is off).
> >> >>>>> > If I move it to any other position, the clock has power.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > My _guess_ is that the starter relais is screwed (which is as well my
> >> >>>>> > hope as I have a spare one) but: Am I right?
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > I'll take the train to go home today and have my wife pick me up..and
> >> >>>>> > before towing the bike home I'd like to try to get her moving again.
> >> >>>>> >
> >> >>>>> > cheers
> >> >>>>> > Alex
> >> >>>>> >
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