shifter seal

[John Soliday]

I tried a small drill, and I "think" that's how I might have dinged the
shaft, but I'll know more when I pull it out again....

-----Original Message-----
From: gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Scappaticci
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 3:01 PM
To: John Soliday
Subject: Re: shifter seal

Either use a dental pick or drill a small hole (VERY CAREFULLY) in the seal
and use an easy out or sheet metal screw.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Randolph Peters <arpee44 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> "it was a bitch to pull out." (John)
> Hey guys, thanks for the info. especially on the oil.
> But back to my original question:
> Any tips on how to pull this sucker? Safely?
> Small seal even smaller space.
> Thanks again.
> Randy
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: John Soliday <johnsoliday at msn.com>
> To: Randy Peters <ARPEE44 at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 2:24 PM
> Subject: RE: shifter seal
>
> Charles,
>
> That's a good idea since I have two more seals.  I think I'll try one 
> more stock seal and then if that doesn't work try your o-ring within 
> an o-ring idea.  Does anyone have a GPZ that doesn't leak "some" at the
shifter?
> Maybe mine is "special", but it seems like the shaft wiggles back and 
> forth more than it should for an o-ring to properly seal it.  I can't 
> think the bearings inside are worn out with only ~ 5K on the clock, 
> but maybe there is a manufacturing defect inside mine....:-(.  There 
> is also a possibility I "dinged" the shifter shaft getting the other 
> seal out, as it was a bitch to pull out.  If there is a "ding" on the 
> shaft maybe I could fill it in with a little JB weld and sand it off 
> smooth....just thinking as I really want the GPZ to leak less than the 
> Vrod (which leaks zero ;-), or the KLR which leaks "acceptable", also 
> from the shift shaft (damn Kawasaki's ;-)
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com 
> [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com] On Behalf Of Charles Scappaticci
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 1:18 PM
> To: John Soliday
> Subject: Re: shifter seal
>
> John,
>
> Here's one thing you can try.  Many, many years ago, (okay, I'm dating 
> myself here), when I went to AMI, one of the instructors suggested a 
> fix for a leaky seal like yours.  He suggested using a "slightly 
> smaller, slightly fatter" "O"-ring in place of the spring inside the 
> seal.  Obviously, you can over do this weith one that is too small or too
tight, but it does work.
> Remember  this was back in the days of real Swedish Husqvarna's which 
> would start leaking 15 minutes after you bought the bike so it was 
> used a lot.  I ahve done this many times and it works. YMMV.
>
> Charles S.
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 10:26 AM, John Soliday <johnsoliday at msn.com> wrote:
>> Me too, as I've replaced it once already and it still leaks :-(.   I 
>> bought two extra's and need to change the oil soon as well.  Will try 
>> at least another couple of times before just giving up and letting 
>> the GPZ "mark it's spot forever" ;-)
>>
>> John
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com
>> [mailto:gpzlist-bounces at micapeak.com] On Behalf Of Randolph Peters
>> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 10:16 AM
>> To: John Soliday
>> Subject: shifter seal
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>> I just got in a replacement seal for my weeping shifter seal and I 
>> intend to replace it when doing an oil change today or tomorrow.
>> I would therefore be grateful for any tips/techniques for removing 
>> the old one.
>> Thanks.
>> Randy from New Orleans,
>> Ex GPZ
>> Current ZZR 1200/
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