GPZList Digest, Laam and Corbin seats

William P. Zeller cherryriver at cherryriver.com
Wed Apr 12 12:40:03 PDT 2017 

Hello, all

I had a Corbin made almost the moment I bought the GPZ (which I've come 
to call "the ZX" because dealer parts men know the bike as a "ZX1100E") 
back in August '01 and used it for more than 90,000 miles.  Then I 
bought Tim's Laam and put that on last year.

The trouble with me reviewing the Laam is that it hasn't really been put 
to a hard enough test yet, mostly due to what we euphemistically call 
"life changes".  Most of my saddle time in the last couple years has 
been on my old GL1800 because in my new digs, I can only keep one bike 
in the home garage.  The GL is the one that the Boss insists upon, so 
the poor ZX is often in storage unit exile.

So, the Laam has not seen even a 400 mile (650km) day, much less 
anything like a 1000 mile (1600km) weekend in my nether region.

Actually, the Corbin was absolutely superb for me and the only reasons I 
went for Tim's Laam were curiosity and the old Corbin getting kind of 
tatty-looking at the seams.  Corbins were rock-hard when they were made 
and got only a little harder.  I, on the other hand, ended my 40-year 
carpenter career in '12 and am certainly no longer rock-hard myself.

My initial impression of the Laam was softness, although not excessively 
so.  I do like the dishing-out-wider shape as providing more support.  I 
think I have a little bit more trouble reaching the ground than with the 
Corbin, which is way better than the OEM seat in that regard.

I especially disliked the OEM seat because of the sensation of sitting 
on the narrow edge of a 2x6.  The Corbin's shape eventually proved to be 
nearly perfect for me.  A little skootch forward at stops and low 
speeds, a little slide back to the pocket for full support when in 
constant movement.  Not a problem.  And the Corbin worked- I racked up 
plenty of 500+ mile days (800km) during my prime and had a long of 830 
miles (1335km) without much posterior agony.

In the current times, the Laam is doing a fine job with the very large 
benefit of having a superior pillion.  The Missus would not ride on the 
Corbin's rear any further than the next town; on the Laam, she'll go 
until her surgically-repaired knees (former volleyball hotshot) 
complain, but it isn't the saddle that's the problem.

If I was heading out at sunrise to go to Pittsburgh for breakfast 
tomorrow, I'd use either seat and probably be fine either way.

Does that help?

If I was realistic, I'd offer to sell my old Corbin to our newcomer 
friend so that he could get it re-done but something makes me want to 
keep it.  You know, just because.

Bill Zeller
Chicagoland area
Pearl Greenish Black '96


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> From: Jake Farley <jakemfarley at gmail.com>
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> Hello All, This is my first post/email to this thread, let me know if
>
> I'm looking for a more comfortable seat for my '96 GPZ1100, I've looked and
> I see that Corbin does not offer a seat for it. Does anyone know of a
> different brand that offers an aftermarket seat for the GPZ? I see that
> Corbin does offer seats for the ZX-11 in that year does anyone know if the
> Ninja and GPZ seats will interchange?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 08:43:29 -0500
> From: Timothy Linke <tcl1969 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: Aftermarket Seat
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> Send it out to laam seats, had mine done and then sold it to Bill on this
> group. He could give you his take on it long term. Laamseats.com
>
>
>
> On Apr 12, 2017 8:18 AM, "Jake Farley" <jakemfarley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello All, This is my first post/email to this thread, let me know if
>>
>> I'm looking for a more comfortable seat for my '96 GPZ1100, I've looked and
>> I see that Corbin does not offer a seat for it. Does anyone know of a
>> different brand that offers an aftermarket seat for the GPZ? I see that
>> Corbin does offer seats for the ZX-11 in that year does anyone know if the
>> Ninja and GPZ seats will interchange?
>>
>> Thanks,
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> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 08:19:47 -0700
> From: Steven Bixby <steven at bixbys.net>
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> +1!
>
> OK, my GPZ is long gone, but I did a ride-in to Laam a couple years back
> on my FJR and had a nice customized seat two hours later. Superb!
>
> Beware, though -- Seth Laam is *really* busy with seats during prime
> time (and even during off season), so  getting through to him can be
> challenging and you might need to allocate some time ahead for it.
> There's quite a few people that get pissy about it in forums, but
> virtually everyone that did get a seat done is quite happy.
>
> On 4/12/2017 6:43 AM, Timothy Linke wrote:
>> Send it out to laam seats, had mine done and then sold it to Bill on this
>> group. He could give you his take on it long term. Laamseats.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2017 8:18 AM, "Jake Farley" <jakemfarley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All, This is my first post/email to this thread, let me know if
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a more comfortable seat for my '96 GPZ1100, I've looked and
>>> I see that Corbin does not offer a seat for it. Does anyone know of a
>>> different brand that offers an aftermarket seat for the GPZ? I see that
>>> Corbin does offer seats for the ZX-11 in that year does anyone know if the
>>> Ninja and GPZ seats will interchange?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> ______________________________________________________________________
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> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 12:00:39 -0400
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> Upcoming movie on Barry Sheene. Looks exciting!
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> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 10:02:02 -0600
> From: Charles Scappaticci <scapco at ecentral.com>
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> The ZX-11 and GPZ seats are not interchangeable.  I've had my GPZ's Corbin
> seat for 20 years and it still looks good for its age, I liked it enough I
> just bought one for my BMW.  You might find a used one on eBay if your
> lucky, otherwise I would agree with Timothy and Steven to find someone to
> modify your stock seat.  You can usually find a used stock seat on eBay so
> you could keep riding until you get the modified one.
>
> Charles S.
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 7:43 AM, Timothy Linke <tcl1969 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Send it out to laam seats, had mine done and then sold it to Bill on this
>> group. He could give you his take on it long term. Laamseats.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2017 8:18 AM, "Jake Farley" <jakemfarley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All, This is my first post/email to this thread, let me know if
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a more comfortable seat for my '96 GPZ1100, I've looked
>> and
>>> I see that Corbin does not offer a seat for it. Does anyone know of a
>>> different brand that offers an aftermarket seat for the GPZ? I see that
>>> Corbin does offer seats for the ZX-11 in that year does anyone know if
>> the
>>> Ninja and GPZ seats will interchange?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> ______________________________________________________________________
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> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:05:13 -0500
> From: Timothy Linke <tcl1969 at gmail.com>
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> Agreed, I bought an extra seat for my FJR and GPZ so I would not be down. I
> did have to send the GPZ seat back a couple of time for adjustments but it
> was worth it. here is the pic of my GPZ laam seat http://www.cherryriver.
> com/Laam%20ZX%20seat.jpg>
>
> Jake, Bill Zeller may have his old Corbin for sale he is at
> bill at cherryriver.com.
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:19 AM, Steven Bixby <steven at bixbys.net> wrote:
>
>> +1!
>>
>> OK, my GPZ is long gone, but I did a ride-in to Laam a couple years back
>> on my FJR and had a nice customized seat two hours later. Superb!
>>
>> Beware, though -- Seth Laam is *really* busy with seats during prime time
>> (and even during off season), so  getting through to him can be challenging
>> and you might need to allocate some time ahead for it. There's quite a few
>> people that get pissy about it in forums, but virtually everyone that did
>> get a seat done is quite happy.
>>
>>
>> On 4/12/2017 6:43 AM, Timothy Linke wrote:
>>
>>> Send it out to laam seats, had mine done and then sold it to Bill on this
>>> group. He could give you his take on it long term. Laamseats.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2017 8:18 AM, "Jake Farley" <jakemfarley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All, This is my first post/email to this thread, let me know if
>>>> I'm looking for a more comfortable seat for my '96 GPZ1100, I've looked
>>>> and
>>>> I see that Corbin does not offer a seat for it. Does anyone know of a
>>>> different brand that offers an aftermarket seat for the GPZ? I see that
>>>> Corbin does offer seats for the ZX-11 in that year does anyone know if
>>>> the
>>>> Ninja and GPZ seats will interchange?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> ______________________________________________________________________
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