From af at genevainformation.ch  Sun Jun 30 08:58:44 2019
From: af at genevainformation.ch (Alexander Finger)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:58:44 +0200
Subject: Brake woes
Message-ID: <CAKO=xBsZYWPiTMb5xnL7uo364GQcqZ64gwtw+C7H=A7kVu93=A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello my friends,
I did not want to let the warmth go without taking the GPZ out for an
hour..so I went up the Salève. On top of the Hill the front brake did not
free up after breaking; it staid in a blocking position for some time; I
pulled the lever a couple of times and with some mechanical noise the brake
loosened. And did not work anymore (I could pull the lever, no resistance).
I saw smoke around the brake but could not make out any damage (I could
only get off the bike later..).
I descended slowly and the brake gained "power" again;  once on a level
ground I stopped the bike to inspect the damage. The only thing I could see
was that the area where the brake line connects to the brake, everything
was squeaky clean (on the right side, the left side was in proper dirty
condition).
- It was very warm for our region
- I did not abuse the brake
- I had some altitude (3000ft)
Could it be that the brake fluid got "too hot" and finally the joint let go?
What's your thoughts?
Thanks
Alex

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From arthjohnson270 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 30 09:44:27 2019
From: arthjohnson270 at gmail.com (Art Johnson)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 10:44:27 -0600
Subject: Brake woes
In-Reply-To: <CAKO=xBsZYWPiTMb5xnL7uo364GQcqZ64gwtw+C7H=A7kVu93=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKO=xBsZYWPiTMb5xnL7uo364GQcqZ64gwtw+C7H=A7kVu93=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39B2BFE5-3479-477C-B983-A951413F2360@gmail.com>

Good that you got away without accident.
Any leakage or hose failure would disable the brakes. Fluid boil might have caused lockup, cooldown release.
Time for brake maintenance, caliper clean, pad inspection, fluid change, replace banjo bolt washers, any defective items, operation check.

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> On Jun 30, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Alexander Finger <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
> 
> Hello my friends,
> I did not want to let the warmth go without taking the GPZ out for an
> hour..so I went up the Salève. On top of the Hill the front brake did not
> free up after breaking; it staid in a blocking position for some time; I
> pulled the lever a couple of times and with some mechanical noise the brake
> loosened. And did not work anymore (I could pull the lever, no resistance).
> I saw smoke around the brake but could not make out any damage (I could
> only get off the bike later..).
> I descended slowly and the brake gained "power" again;  once on a level
> ground I stopped the bike to inspect the damage. The only thing I could see
> was that the area where the brake line connects to the brake, everything
> was squeaky clean (on the right side, the left side was in proper dirty
> condition).
> - It was very warm for our region
> - I did not abuse the brake
> - I had some altitude (3000ft)
> Could it be that the brake fluid got "too hot" and finally the joint let go?
> What's your thoughts?
> Thanks
> Alex
> 
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From af at genevainformation.ch  Sun Jun 30 10:49:16 2019
From: af at genevainformation.ch (Alexander Finger)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 19:49:16 +0200
Subject: Brake woes
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References: <CAKO=xBsZYWPiTMb5xnL7uo364GQcqZ64gwtw+C7H=A7kVu93=A@mail.gmail.com>
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I was slow when they blocked. So it's off to the dealer for a brake job
then..I hope it'll not cost more than the downpayment for a new zzr.

Art Johnson <arthjohnson270 at gmail.com> schrieb am So., 30. Juni 2019, 18:44:

> Good that you got away without accident.
> Any leakage or hose failure would disable the brakes. Fluid boil might
> have caused lockup, cooldown release.
> Time for brake maintenance, caliper clean, pad inspection, fluid change,
> replace banjo bolt washers, any defective items, operation check.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 30, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Alexander Finger <af at genevainformation.ch>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello my friends,
> > I did not want to let the warmth go without taking the GPZ out for an
> > hour..so I went up the Salève. On top of the Hill the front brake did not
> > free up after breaking; it staid in a blocking position for some time; I
> > pulled the lever a couple of times and with some mechanical noise the
> brake
> > loosened. And did not work anymore (I could pull the lever, no
> resistance).
> > I saw smoke around the brake but could not make out any damage (I could
> > only get off the bike later..).
> > I descended slowly and the brake gained "power" again;  once on a level
> > ground I stopped the bike to inspect the damage. The only thing I could
> see
> > was that the area where the brake line connects to the brake, everything
> > was squeaky clean (on the right side, the left side was in proper dirty
> > condition).
> > - It was very warm for our region
> > - I did not abuse the brake
> > - I had some altitude (3000ft)
> > Could it be that the brake fluid got "too hot" and finally the joint let
> go?
> > What's your thoughts?
> > Thanks
> > Alex
> >
> > --
> > --
> > http://alexfinger.ch for pgp key etc
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From arthjohnson270 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 30 11:30:53 2019
From: arthjohnson270 at gmail.com (Art Johnson)
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 12:30:53 -0600
Subject: Brake woes
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Hope it works out for you Alex. Fun fast rides for cheap thrills.
 I left my Gpz in Venezia....

The GPz is reliable. Hope to do more Euro adventures over the next 5 yrs. Croatia and Rome this Fall. Then Spain, Portugal and S. France, next. Work north to Sweden, Norway, UK and Ireland.

Bought a 2007 Zx14 (ZZR) for home. The front brakes are so much better.
Going thru the maintenance routine, coolant, brake fluid change, sparkplugs, valve shims, air filter. Tires and chain good. Tsukigi 4-1 pipe and ECU reprogram next.

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> On Jun 30, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Alexander Finger <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
> 
> I was slow when they blocked. So it's off to the dealer for a brake job
> then..I hope it'll not cost more than the downpayment for a new zzr.
> 
> Art Johnson <arthjohnson270 at gmail.com> schrieb am So., 30. Juni 2019, 18:44:
> 
>> Good that you got away without accident.
>> Any leakage or hose failure would disable the brakes. Fluid boil might
>> have caused lockup, cooldown release.
>> Time for brake maintenance, caliper clean, pad inspection, fluid change,
>> replace banjo bolt washers, any defective items, operation check.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Alexander Finger <af at genevainformation.ch>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello my friends,
>>> I did not want to let the warmth go without taking the GPZ out for an
>>> hour..so I went up the Salève. On top of the Hill the front brake did not
>>> free up after breaking; it staid in a blocking position for some time; I
>>> pulled the lever a couple of times and with some mechanical noise the
>> brake
>>> loosened. And did not work anymore (I could pull the lever, no
>> resistance).
>>> I saw smoke around the brake but could not make out any damage (I could
>>> only get off the bike later..).
>>> I descended slowly and the brake gained "power" again;  once on a level
>>> ground I stopped the bike to inspect the damage. The only thing I could
>> see
>>> was that the area where the brake line connects to the brake, everything
>>> was squeaky clean (on the right side, the left side was in proper dirty
>>> condition).
>>> - It was very warm for our region
>>> - I did not abuse the brake
>>> - I had some altitude (3000ft)
>>> Could it be that the brake fluid got "too hot" and finally the joint let
>> go?
>>> What's your thoughts?
>>> Thanks
>>> Alex
>>> 
>>> --
>>> --
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