Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature

Art Johnson arthjohnson270 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 25 07:40:48 PDT 2018 

Things to like about GPz;
No dipsticks
Cool running
Reliable
Fast and good fuel consumption
Easy maintenance (thank you shim kit)

Got full stroke on temp gauge (and pulse!) after changing antifreeze. Didn’t vent return side to thermostat, so likely boiled off a bit to get thermostat to open, then all good.

Sight glass oil level changes from cold start to running temp. Give it time to settle like at a gas stop/coffee break. I’ve added too much once. Had to drain crankcase after fuel dilution. Always run an in-line fuel filter.
On the 1700 Voyager, oil has to be hot, bike level, to get correct reading on dipstick, after about 5 minutes shutoff. Follow owner manual instructions.

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> On Apr 25, 2018, at 12:56 AM, Don French <Sirdondiego at outlook.com> wrote:
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> Nar. I had to wait 2 days before the reading was accurate, as did many others.
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> From: GPZList <gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> on behalf of Alexander Finger <af at genevainformation.ch>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 1:25:04 AM
> To: Don French
> Subject: Re: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
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> The oil thingy-glass is perfect. It just requires perfection on the
> reader's side, too!
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:22 AM, Don French <Sirdondiego at outlook.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The oil site Glass and the temp Gage are the few things not perfect?
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>> From: GPZList <gpzlist-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> on behalf of Arthur
>> Robinson <art.robinson at rogers.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:53:34 PM
>> To: Don French
>> Subject: RE: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
>> 
>> Soon after I bought my '95 I mentioned the low temperature reading and was
>> told, "Relax, that's just the way they are".
>> 
>> Given the many kms., extreme reliability and minimal oil consumption, I'd
>> have to say that the low temp reading it must be working well for it and
>> maybe that should be enough... Still my Volvo's temp gauge reads exactly on
>> the middle point of normal and I've never seen it move more that the width
>> of the needle either side of the mark regardless of the temperature, low or
>> high and somehow I find that comforting... Go figure!
>> 
>> Art in TO (waiting for the rain tonight and tomorrow to wash away the road
>> salt, AGAIN!)
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>> masonjs at nrtco.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:13 AM
>> To: art.robinson at rogers.com
>> Subject: Re: Temperature guage readings vs. operating temperature
>> 
>> In the 10 years I owned mine I only saw the heat gauge in the high of
>> center range once.  This was in stop & crawl traffic in Poplar Bluff
>> Missouri on my way to Hot Springs Arkansas.  According to the
>> date/time/temperature display at the Bank of America it was 104 F (40
>> C).  But the temperature dropped below center within 3 km once I got
>> on the highway.
>> A few bikes were out yesterday but there's too much winter sand on the
>> roads to suit me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Monday 23/04/2018 at 9:50 pm, Paul Heim  wrote:
>>> Mine has always read low. I asked the question about 13 years ago and
>>> Ralph replied that his (and everyone else’s) behaves the same way.
>>> I’ve never been motivated enough to determine the actual
>>> temperature...
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 23, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Alexander Finger
>>>> <af at genevainformation.ch> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It seems indeed, that the GPZ is an incredibly cool bike ;)
>>>> (I'm observing the same, though here the temperatures rarely go above
>>>> 10°C
>>>> ;-) *)
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Alex
>>>> 
>>>> *) just kidding, 15°C this morning when I left the house
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 7:28 PM, William K Denton
>>>> <wkdenton at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve always been a bit flummoxed by the (low) temperature gauge
>>>>> readings on
>>>>> my ’96  GPz1100. Whenever I’m riding at highway speeds and the
>>>>> ambient
>>>>> temperature is less than ~90ºF (~32ºC), my temp gauge indicates that
>>>>> the
>>>>> coolant temperature is oscillating between the “cold” and just
>>>>> above the
>>>>> cold range as the thermostat opens and then closes repeatedly.
>>>>> Contrast
>>>>> that
>>>>> gauge reading with every other liquid cooled vehicle that I’ve ever
>>>>> owned,
>>>>> both two and four wheeled varieties, where full operating temperature
>>>>> is
>>>>> usually indicated by a “centered” needle position similar to the
>>>>> three
>>>>> bears’ porridge, i.e. not too cold not too hot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In my mind, these comparative observation beg the following questions:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1)      What was Kawasaki’s normal operating design temperature for
>>>>> the
>>>>> ZX1100-E1 and E2?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2)      What is the actual operating temperature when the temperature
>>>>> gauge
>>>>> reads just above “cold” range as mine does when riding in cool
>>>>> weather
>>>>> conditions?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3)      How do #1 and #2 above correlate, and
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4)      Is the temp gauge reading caused by an improper manufacturing
>>>>> specification for the selected gauge, or is it actually an operating
>>>>> temperature problem, perhaps caused by improper mfg. specification for
>>>>> the
>>>>> thermostat?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perspiring minds want to know…. ;<D
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill in Yardley, PA
>>>>> <mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net> wkdenton at verizon.net
>>>>> yam650 Listowner
>>>>> '96 ZX1100-E2  "Stealth Rocket"
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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