Oil level check

Mon Jan 18 13:50:08 PST 2021

We took the Gpz to a Honda shop in Marghera for an olio change in 2018. I dont believe they knew about two drain plugs. In 2019, the shop mgr was shown the bike manual page with drain plugs. They only charged for 3 liters of superpremio Fuchs @€20each! Yipes.
At home oil changes now include overnight drain time. Even the Voyager has two drain plugs.

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 3:25 AM, Ped <gpz1100abs at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> 
> The oil guage issue was discussed here when the list was new, i.e. many, many years ago :) If I remember correctly, a few - including myself - had this issue, but most didn't. I don't think a conclusion was ever reached as to why it was so. Mine behaves in the following way:
> 
> When I change the oil and the oil filter I pour in exactly the amount of fresh oil specified in the manual (3.5 litres). Then I know that the engine has the amount of oil it is supposed to. After a short trip I place the bike on its centerstand on the level garage floor. At that point in time the oil glass will be full. After about 24 hours the upper level of the oil becomes visible in the top of sight glass. After another 24 hours the oil level finally settles in the middle of the sight glass and does not go any lower. So when the engine (my engine) has the correct amount of oil in it, the oil level in the sight glass is not at the upper level (as you would expect) but rather right in between max and min. It behaves that way any time the engine has been run, to gauging oil level with a warm engine is really not possible. Why it is so I don't know. I've never heard of any other motorcycle engine with that behavior.
> 
> So how do I guage the oil level when I'm on a extended tour and ride every day? I don't - because I can't. But I have a fairly good idea of the oil consumption. If for example I have been riding 1000 km on the motorway I know it tends to use a little oil, and I will give it a deciliter or so, no matter what the sight glass shows (it will be full anyway). If I ride on back roads only, I can wait another 1000 km before adding oil. And apparently this behavior has no effect on its lifetime. Mine has now 229.000 km (142.000 miles) on the odo and is still going strong :)
> 
> Ped
> '96 "Black Stealth" GPZ
> Denmark
> 
> 
> ------ Original Meddelelse ------
> Fra: "Don French" <Sirdondiego at outlook.com>
> Til: "ped" <gpz1100abs at gmail.com>
> Sendt: 18-01-2021 05:04:14
> Emne: RE: Oil level check
> 
>> In the 42 Thousand miles I rode my 95 “Rock and Roll Red,” It’s oil symptom remained the same as Yours’.
>> 
>> At each oil change R & R both drain plugs and the filter, pour in 4 quarts, start and check for leaks.
>> 
>> After every 500 miles park the bike on it’s center stand and check oil level the next day.
>> 
>> With that bike it’s best to check it stone cold because it will never change without a tear down to discover
>> Why it takes so very long draining down all the way. I really would like to know the exact reason for the slow
>> draining.
>> 
>> Happy riding, Bill.
>> 
>> Dondiego.
>> 
>> 
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>> From: Bill Denton<mailto:wkdenton at verizon.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 12:18 PM
>> To: Don French<mailto:Sirdondiego at outlook.com>
>> Subject: Oil level check
>> 
>> Hi gang,
>> 
>> Happy New year to all. I still own and love my fast black '96, but one particular idiosyncrasy about the motor has always flummoxed me, namely checking the oil level. With every other motorcycle I've ever owned, the way I've always checked the oil level is with a warm engine. But after a ride with the GPz, when I check the sight glass it always seems "overfull" ie it completely fills the sight glass and always seems to take overnight to settle back down to where I can actually gauge the fullness. Because of this phenomenon, I usually fill the oil (only) to the halfway full mark when cold because I'm paranoid about overfilling and then causing internal damage to the bike from excessive foaming if the (over full) oil gets whipped by the crank throws.
>> 
>> So I'm asking your collective opinion(s) about the conditions under which you check your oil and if you experience the same issue about the oil in your 95-96 GPz motor taking overnight to settle.
>> 
>> TIA,
>> Bill in Yardley, PA
>> 
>> William K Denton
>> wkdenton at verizon.net
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