[Tanx] [External] TA Problem. Please assist

Tue Jun 23 07:42:18 PDT 2020

I've always done carb cleaning off the bike and have never used Techron in
a motorcycle because of an experience in the early '70s. My friend, Bill,
and I bought identical Kawi 250cc 2-stroke dual sport bikes in about 1975.
After a few years, he wanted to sell his and a buyer wanted to ride it.  We
all went riding in north NJ and had a great time until his bike, which the
buyer was riding, just stopped.  I checked the kick-start action (no
electric start then) and there was no resistance. Bill said he'd put some
Gumout in the tank to clean the carb; it had created so much heat it melted
a finger-size hole in the piston crown.  The melted aluminum had committed
some other ancillary chaos in the motor.  The buyer changed his mind. Maybe
Techron wouldn't do that, but I just swap out for fresh gas if it's been
sitting too long.  I also start it up and let it warm up thoroughly every
couple of weeks in the winter.
Milt

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 10:05 AM Hermann Kasper <hermannkasper at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi All--
>
> I found the info about Techron and CRC very helpful.
> As a matter of fact, I already bought some Techron and plan on using it
> regularly in our vehicles.(cars, bikes, lawnmower...)
> Maybe other folks also learned something ?
>
> I might not be the only one who appreciates such helpful pointers , so :
> * Can we share potentially helpful info more often...? *
>
> Herm😉
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Tanx <tanx-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> on behalf of Milt Rudy via
> Tanx <tanx at lists.micapeak.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:51 AM
> *To:* Transalp and NX discussion list <tanx at lists.micapeak.com>
> *Cc:* Milt Rudy <miltrudy at gmail.com>; Burr, John H Collins <
> john.burr at collins.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tanx] [External] TA Problem. Please assist
>
> I use Techron about every 2000 miles in each car and notice they will run
> a bit smoother afterwards.  I also use StaBil in the 20 gallons of gas I
> keep for my generator and in the generator itself.  It has never failed to
> start on a few pulls when the power goes out and when I start it
> periodically to just "exercise" it.  Of course, I exchange all the
> "StaBil'd" gas yearly after they switch over to winter blend gas.  In the
> motorcycle (NC700X), I only use gasoline, and I start and run it at least
> weekly even during the winter.  Have yet to experience any problems.
> Milt
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:36 AM J. Braun via Tanx <
> tanx at lists.micapeak.com> wrote:
>
> With all due respect to Herman's knowledge and skills, which are many, I
> have to disagree.
>
> My brother Richard is a marine mechanic in California. He has a noted
> reputation for knowledge and quality work. I asked him about storing
> engines over the winter and he pointed me to Sea Foam where I had been
> using Sta-Bil previously.
>
> However, he points out, Sea Foam is a preservative, not a cleaner. The
> marketing people would have you believe that it is but his
> recommendation is Techron
> <https://www.chevronlubricants.com/en_us/home/products/techron-complete-fuel-system-cleaner.html>.
> It will dissolve and clean the crap out of a carb quickly while Sea Foam
> *might* do something *eventually.* I have solved many a carburetor
> problem by simply using Techron in a couple of tanks of gas and just riding
> the bike. Certainly beats pulling the carbs and rebuilding them. In dirty
> carbs I generally use twice the concentration that the instructions
> recommend.
>
> I have a case of each in my garage and use each for their specific purpose/
>
> While I'm at it let me recite a favorite rant of mine. *WD*-40 is a *W*ater
> *D*ispersant NOT a lubricant. Again, a great job by their marketing
> department! For a real light weight penetrating lubricant get CRC
> PowerLube
> <https://www.crcindustries.com/products/power-lube-174-multi-purpose-lubricant-11-wt-oz-05006.html>.
> It's industrial quality and available at most AutoZone or O'Reilly stores.
> It gets into tight spaces, frees up crud, and lubricates the parts. It's
> also safe for rubber parts although for that I generally use a silicon
> spray. They also make another version with a PTFE additive that I've tried
> but not found any particular advantage for motorcycle applications.
>
> The right tool for the right job! But of course, your mileage may vary.
>
> J.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:24 PM Hermann Kasper via Tanx <
> tanx at lists.micapeak.com> wrote:
>
> Hi--
>
> my first step would be to try a generous amount of "SEAFOAM" in the fuel .
> (Walmart has it at a decent price)
>
> Herm
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Tanx <tanx-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> on behalf of Burr, John H
> Collins via Tanx <tanx at lists.micapeak.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:15 PM
> *To:* evansmsf at aol.com <evansmsf at aol.com>; Transalp and NX discussion
> list <tanx at lists.micapeak.com>
> *Cc:* Burr, John H Collins <john.burr at collins.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tanx] [External] TA Problem. Please assist
>
>
> OR
>
> Leak in the vacuum hose to fuel valve.  Either way the tank should come
> off.
>
>
>
> *From:* Tanx [mailto:tanx-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] *On Behalf Of *Don
> Evans via Tanx
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:10 PM
> *To:* tanx at lists.micapeak.com
> *Cc:* evansmsf at aol.com
> *Subject:* [External] [Tanx] TA Problem. Please assist
>
>
>
> Bike (89) sat the winter with fuel and stabilizer in tank.  Starts quick
> and runs well for a few then loses power as if no fuel.  Roll the throttle
> and it regains and continues. Happens many times on a 20 mile trip.  Rarely
> does it entirely quit,  If so I can start quickly.  No correlation between
> road condition (bumps), miles traveled or speed.  Installed new CDI's to
> eliminate that as an issue.  I ride daily to, hopefully, clear and clear.
>
>
>
> Your help please.
>
>
>
> Don
>
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