[Tanx] [External] TA Problem. Please assist

Tue Jun 23 16:11:10 PDT 2020

Putting the additive in the gas leaned out the fuel mixture plus clogged jets is a path for destruction on a 2-stoke. Extra oil or any additive that messes up the fuel ratio will lean out the fuel. 

New gas and techron and then take it easy for a while. If that fails gonna have to dig into the carb. As Adam said fresh gas alone may even clean it if its not too bad. 

Learned about the CRC lube versus WD-40 from J. a while ago. 
Jason

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 10:42, Milt Rudy via Tanx <tanx at lists.micapeak.com> wrote:
> 
> I've always done carb cleaning off the bike and have never used Techron in a motorcycle because of an experience in the early '70s. My friend, Bill, and I bought identical Kawi 250cc 2-stroke dual sport bikes in about 1975.  After a few years, he wanted to sell his and a buyer wanted to ride it.  We all went riding in north NJ and had a great time until his bike, which the buyer was riding, just stopped.  I checked the kick-start action (no electric start then) and there was no resistance. Bill said he'd put some Gumout in the tank to clean the carb; it had created so much heat it melted a finger-size hole in the piston crown.  The melted aluminum had committed some other ancillary chaos in the motor.  The buyer changed his mind. Maybe Techron wouldn't do that, but I just swap out for fresh gas if it's been sitting too long.  I also start it up and let it warm up thoroughly every couple of weeks in the winter. 
> Milt
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 10:05 AM Hermann Kasper <hermannkasper at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi All--
>> 
>> I found the info about Techron and CRC very helpful.
>> As a matter of fact, I already bought some Techron and plan on using it regularly in our vehicles.(cars, bikes, lawnmower...)
>> Maybe other folks also learned something ? 
>> 
>> I might not be the only one who appreciates such helpful pointers , so : 
>>  Can we share potentially helpful info more often...? 
>> 
>> Herm😉 
>> From: Tanx <tanx-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> on behalf of Milt Rudy via Tanx <tanx at lists.micapeak.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 11:51 AM
>> To: Transalp and NX discussion list <tanx at lists.micapeak.com>
>> Cc: Milt Rudy <miltrudy at gmail.com>; Burr, John H Collins <john.burr at collins.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Tanx] [External] TA Problem. Please assist
>>  
>> I use Techron about every 2000 miles in each car and notice they will run a bit smoother afterwards.  I also use StaBil in the 20 gallons of gas I keep for my generator and in the generator itself.  It has never failed to start on a few pulls when the power goes out and when I start it periodically to just "exercise" it.  Of course, I exchange all the "StaBil'd" gas yearly after they switch over to winter blend gas.  In the motorcycle (NC700X), I only use gasoline, and I start and run it at least weekly even during the winter.  Have yet to experience any problems.
>> Milt
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 10:36 AM J. Braun via Tanx <tanx at lists.micapeak.com> wrote:
>> With all due respect to Herman's knowledge and skills, which are many, I have to disagree.
>> 
>> My brother Richard is a marine mechanic in California. He has a noted reputation for knowledge and quality work. I asked him about storing engines over the winter and he pointed me to Sea Foam where I had been using Sta-Bil previously. 
>> 
>> However, he points out, Sea Foam is a preservative, not a cleaner. The marketing people would have you believe that it is but his recommendation is Techron. It will dissolve and clean the crap out of a carb quickly while Sea Foam might do something eventually. I have solved many a carburetor problem by simply using Techron in a couple of tanks of gas and just riding the bike. Certainly beats pulling the carbs and rebuilding them. In dirty carbs I generally use twice the concentration that the instructions recommend.
>> 
>> I have a case of each in my garage and use each for their specific purpose/
>> 
>> While I'm at it let me recite a favorite rant of mine. WD-40 is a Water Dispersant NOT a lubricant. Again, a great job by their marketing department! For a real light weight penetrating lubricant get CRC PowerLube. It's industrial quality and available at most AutoZone or O'Reilly stores. It gets into tight spaces, frees up crud, and lubricates the parts. It's also safe for rubber parts although for that I generally use a silicon spray. They also make another version with a PTFE additive that I've tried but not found any particular advantage for motorcycle applications. 
>> 
>> The right tool for the right job! But of course, your mileage may vary.
>> 
>> J.
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:24 PM Hermann Kasper via Tanx <tanx at lists.micapeak.com> wrote:
>> Hi--
>> 
>> my first step would be to try a generous amount of "SEAFOAM" in the fuel . 
>> (Walmart has it at a decent price)
>> Herm
>> 
>>  
>> From: Tanx <tanx-bounces at lists.micapeak.com> on behalf of Burr, John H Collins via Tanx <tanx at lists.micapeak.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:15 PM
>> To: evansmsf at aol.com <evansmsf at aol.com>; Transalp and NX discussion list <tanx at lists.micapeak.com>
>> Cc: Burr, John H Collins <john.burr at collins.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Tanx] [External] TA Problem. Please assist
>>  
>> OR
>> Leak in the vacuum hose to fuel valve.  Either way the tank should come off.
>>  
>> From: Tanx [mailto:tanx-bounces at lists.micapeak.com] On Behalf Of Don Evans via Tanx
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 2:10 PM
>> To: tanx at lists.micapeak.com
>> Cc: evansmsf at aol.com
>> Subject: [External] [Tanx] TA Problem. Please assist
>>  
>> Bike (89) sat the winter with fuel and stabilizer in tank.  Starts quick and runs well for a few then loses power as if no fuel.  Roll the throttle and it regains and continues. Happens many times on a 20 mile trip.  Rarely does it entirely quit,  If so I can start quickly.  No correlation between road condition (bumps), miles traveled or speed.  Installed new CDI's to eliminate that as an issue.  I ride daily to, hopefully, clear and clear.
>>  
>> Your help please.
>>  
>> Don
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