[BaseCamp] How do I join routes?

Tue Apr 14 10:49:16 PDT 2015

This is excellent advice. I find that the GPS unit doesn't like complex
routes. Two things create complexity: Many waypoints and many turns. You
could have a CC50 route with one waypoint that's 2400 miles away, but
that's still a complex route because you have interchanges in the major
cities and a long turn list. It's fine to use Basecamp to create a complex
route, but break it up before loading to the GPS. That's why everyone
always advises point-to-point routing during a rally - so your GPS doesn't
munch your route at an inopportune time.

Jerry

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Tim Bowman <tk.bowman at comcast.net> wrote:

> With the current discussion about joining routes, it's important to note
> some shortcomings of joining routes and a few other route matters.  Keep in
> mind that I do join routes, but I try to be sparing in doing it.  Here's
> what I've found:
>
> - Longer routes can take much more time to recalculate on the GPS if the
> rider deviates from the route.
> - If the route includes too many waypoints, it can be silently truncated
> losing some waypoints.
> - The longer route may be harder to edit on your GPS device (if you are
> inclined to do so).
> - Joining routes helps to provide a big picture of an intended ride.
>
> For my LD riding, I try to shorten the route to 1/2 day in length; and
> depending upon the number of waypoints, I may make it a day in length.
> Often I find myself routing from waypoint to waypoint to keep the routing
> simpler.  Also, since I use a Garmin Montana, I save one copy of the route
> on my PC with the route preferences set as DIRECT.   This route when
> transferred to the Montana allows me to edit the route 'on the fly'.  Using
> other profiles doesn't allow me to edit the route.
>
> Tim Bowman
> Burien, WA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Basecamp [mailto:basecamp-bounces at micapeak.com] On Behalf Of Greg
> Horodeck
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 7:27 AM
> To: 'BaseCamp'
> Subject: Re: [BaseCamp] How do I join routes?
>
> Additional comments on joining routes. Note, this applies to the most
> current Windows version (4.4.6), I cannot confirm Mac behavior.
>
> The routes will be joined in the sequence they were selected using the
> Ctrl-Left Click and more than two routes can be selected.
>
> Before joining, Basecamp displays a dialog which allows you to rearrange
> the
> sequence of routes to be joined.
>
> After joining, Basecamp displays a dialog asking if the original routes are
> to be retained or deleted. So it is not necessary to make duplicates of the
> originals prior but is certainly a very good practice.
>
> If your original routes have different Activity Profiles, the original
> Activity Profile will be retained between the waypoints of the original
> route in the new joined route. You will see "Mixed Travel" as the profile
> for the new route.
>
> The original routes do not have to be contiguous (ie, ending and starting
> at
> the same waypoint); Basecamp will "fill in the blank" between the two
> original non-contiguous route. It appears that the "fill in the blank"
> segment assumes the Activity Profile from the trailing or second route in
> the joining sequence.
>
>
> In the same manner, it is possible to join tracks.
>
>
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Basecamp [mailto:basecamp-bounces at micapeak.com] On Behalf Of saddle
> sore
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 11:52 AM
> To: BaseCamp
> Subject: Re: [BaseCamp] How do I join routes?
>
> John
> your email didn't come through.  I only saw the reply from Chris.
> Hmmm.      Anyhow, how I make two routes into one combined route is:
> 1.  select the first route desired, right click and Duplicate.
> 2.  select the second route desired, right click, select Duplicate.  Thus,
> the originals are preserved.
> 3.  highlight one of the duplicates, then hold down Control key and left
> click the mouse over top the other duplicated route.  Now both are
> highlighted.
> 4.  right click over either one and select Join The Selected Routes.
> Presto, chango, it's done.
> Joe Y
> western PA
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:04 AM, <crasmussen at carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > John,
> > Not an expert bu I think that you would have to do it manually by
> > adding the fewer waypoints of the two routes into the other route.  Of
> > course if you want to just add the start point of the second route to
> > the end of the first then it's just a matter of complete the first
> > route and then starting the second one...
> > Another way maybe doable by ammending the data file outside of basecamp.
> > Move the route to a file and open it in Excel and then open the second
> > route  in excel and cut and paste???  Have to play with it but that
> > might work...
> >
> > Did a google search and found this (as well as other posts)
> >
> > http://www.vftt.org/forums/showthread.php?35429-Merging-Garmin-GPS-tra
> > cks-waypoints-routes-into-1-Master-gdb-file
> >
> > Hope that helps...
> > Chris
> > Spring has Sprung!
> >
> > ---- John Zabelle <sarhog44 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > For the life of me, I cannot figure out how to join to previously
> > created routes.
> > > For instance, I have a route from Molino, Florida going generally
> > northwest connecting all of the Mississippi Tour of Honor locations.
> > I also have a route running roughly west to east across Tennessee
> > connecting each of that state's Tour of Honor locations.  How do I
> > make that 1 continuous route?
> > > Surely this is do-able, right?  How??
> > > I'm on a Mac, using the current version of Basecamp (4.4.6).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > John Z
> > > Molino, FL
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >
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